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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Taming the 6510
I've been asked to do a 5-minute TED session next month in front of the whole company (~150 people), and I thought I would do it on ways to program ML for the c64 throughout the years.
Starting out with basic (peek & poke), using the cartridge monitor, turbo assembler, cross developing using 2 connected c64s, cross developing using another machine connected to a c64, coding everything on a pc using Vice and finally ending with KickAss (as my firm is very Java oriented that last one will probably take very well).
Now, am I forgetting something? Does anybody know if such a list is already present somewhere? Are there better terms that I could use (somehow I feel I used to know these things by different names)?
Thanks in advance. |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 902 |
Before cartridge monitor, a lot of people used monitors like SMON. Oh, and don't forget the mighty POKEmon ;) |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
@TDJ: Don't forget to show $d419-$d41a trick. It's unique y'know. :) |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 437 |
@Skate: What's the trick? Dutch Breeze finger one? ;-) |
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doynax
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Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 212 |
So how was the original C64 software, such as the Kernal and 1541 ROMs, developed? Did Commodore use a cross-assembler on a minicomputer or could the PET handle it? |
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Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
is it a la TED or is it actually TED, and if yes, will it be recorded? :) |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Quote: So how was the original C64 software, such as the Kernal and 1541 ROMs, developed? Did Commodore use a cross-assembler on a minicomputer or could the PET handle it?
But then how was the PET ROM developed? At some point the bootstrapping tool was a piece of paper and a pencil... |
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JCB
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Chuck Norris kicked the first computer into life, that's why it's called "boot-ing".. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
@Werner: thanks, SMON was one of those things that I was looking for. And I might even borrow your POKEmon joke ;)
@Skate: I'm not going into so much detail, and I sure as hell am not going to finger my c64 in front of my boss :Z
@Celtic: yes, it will be a real TED session, and yes, it will be videotaped, but for internal use only. |
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JCB
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Not sure if you're aware of PDS (Programmers Development System) but it was one of the most popular cross dev systems at the time. If a software house didn't make their own they were probably using PDS. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
@JCB: I wasn't aware of it, but it's something I'll definitely look into, thanks. |
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