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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Downvoting, for what reasons?
Seems I got two inverse mega fans. They gave me a set of 1 point votes.
I was a bit interested in finding out who that was, since I've never heard of them or seen any posts from either of them on CSDb.
The votes in question are registered to Auslaender and abracadabra, which is perfectly ok, if they think I suck...
At first I just clicked the abracadabra link and some pretty empty profile with a picture of a magician showed (refered to a guy call Mira, too!). I thought, hmm, strange.. Maybe someone who'd like to conceal himself or something... Didn't think much of it to be honest.
I wasn't untill another one showed. Auslaender!. Strange handle, but then again, we're strange people most of us.. I wonder who that is!.. No profile, when doing a profile search.. Though I'd search the forum for posts, and .. bang... All my indifferent discussions with Nata showed, only Nata showing as Auslaender!.. Sigh!.. Why?.. For what use?.. I don't get it.. He can vote me all the way to the bottom of the list for all I care, but I'm really disappointed.. I hope someone else hacked his profile or something, because that would mean that I didn't misjudge Nata in the past. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
lame ppl make sure their votes are invisible and some of em even create fake users to downvote someone they dislike even more. this is part of the csdb voting system and something we all have to live with (I recently dropped out of the top10 cause twg/wdr/crypt/whateverlamegroup downvoted me).
I couldn't care less, so should you ;)
also, if ppl think they must downvote you, they only do it if it serves a purpose, ie if you are in the top10 and they are jealous. usually done by braindead ppl that wouldnt get anyones vote. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
I don't care, I'm just disappointed... |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: I don't care, I'm just disappointed...
yeah, as am I. You'd think we've all grown up by now... |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Nata has been changing his handle lately (after he quit the scene) - no hacking.
The full changelog seems to be so far:
:-D
Random
Ausländer
Mira aka Abracadabra is his friend. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: Nata has been changing his handle lately (after he quit the scene) - no hacking.
The full changelog seems to be so far:
:-D
Random
Ausländer
Mira aka Abracadabra is his friend.
how sad is that |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
The voting system is imperfect.. ...and it is especially sucking when having trusted user account and checking (out of curiosity) who did it. Finding people you know and never expected of being capable of downvoting is quite disappointing (but at least helps to reconsider the relationships), but finding someone who you absolutely don't know and not having a slightest clue what reasons he had and what he might have against you is a bit puzzling. I think it would be best to have separate charts. Having top half points for "LIKED" charts and the bottom half for "HATED" charts ;-) ... anyone who gives you under average score probably thinks you are not good.. and anyone who gives you over 5 probably thinks you are better than average.. so it might probably work quite well. And btw. I care about what scores I receive and why, and I'm not ashamed of admitting it ;-) |
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Graham
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That's a general problem with voting. If people know the voting result before voting, they don't give the vote they think somebody deserves, but they vote in a way to modify the result to match their personal thinking.
I think the voting system would be better if you didn't see the result before you have voted. That would also make more people vote :) |
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markus sinalco
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Don't be sad Thomas ! (Or even disappointed) - Strange things happen !
I read some of the Posts, and I think you just HAD to "selfdefense" yourself on a certain Point (!!)
That was right and nothing but right.
Maybe only Spacecraft X7 can discover Natas Reasons...
Anyway, I just gave you a 9 (because you stole Hubbards Player) ;) |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
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For that to work the possibility to change your vote would have to be removed. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Anonymous downvoting is just an immature way to express your hate without the fear of confronting with the actual scener. That's just a very low kind of cowardness and I think we're all awared about that... But why is this disgusting attitude supported by the admins of CSDb is beyond me, really. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
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Quote: That's a general problem with voting. If people know the voting result before voting, they don't give the vote they think somebody deserves, but they vote in a way to modify the result to match their personal thinking.
I think the voting system would be better if you didn't see the result before you have voted. That would also make more people vote :)
sadly thats impossible, imagine having to vote for *all* demo groups to be able too see the top 10 ;)
no, you simply have to ban childish voters, or require a certain userlevel to be able to vote. (like 10+ votes from other non-kid users) |
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Graham
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Most voters are "childish" and let themselves influence by the result they have just seen. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
I know this has probably been disgussed before.. but why not remove the "anonymous voting" feature ?
Are people really THAT afraid of letting the people they vote for, know what they voted?
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
Quote: sadly thats impossible, imagine having to vote for *all* demo groups to be able too see the top 10 ;)
no, you simply have to ban childish voters, or require a certain userlevel to be able to vote. (like 10+ votes from other non-kid users)
Actually I tested this in a "unmoderated" photo contest on one of the portals I'm programming, and it was quite like you are describing ;-). Everyone had his own "top" made from the photos he had casted votes for.Plus there was an extensive admin for checking of ill and manipulative voting like too much 9 and 1 etc. We could identify and ban such manipulators, but actually there was never 100% fair results.. so we have decided to handpic the best photos instead (with the help of the "rank" influencing our judgement).
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
The following threads already contain hundreds of posts considering the same topic, basically we're just repeating the same old here.
Up/downvoting solution
Up/downvoting solution
STOP DOWNVOTING,LAMERS!!!!!
STOP DOWNVOTING,LAMERS!!!!!
Voting
Voting
Misuse of voting
Misuse of voting
Transparent votes?
Transparent votes?
Downvoting
Downvoting
will some 1 please tell me why
will some 1 please tell me why
IMHO, the best idea comes from TDJ:
Transparant voting & editing
Transparant voting & editing
+ Weighted-average topics
weighted average?
weighted average?
Weighted average, again.
Weighted average, again.
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598 |
there's nothing u could really do about it.
wherever there's a voting system there will always be the bloody downvoters.
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Mirage
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 113 |
and what about those upvoters... sickening! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
i always vote either 10 (good) or 1 (sucks). and i have my votes set to anonymous. so i'm an anonymous updownvoter? \o/
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Downvoting is ok, as far as wdr is concerned. And as long as you have the guts to stand up for your votes by making them public.
Groepaz, why don't you make your votes public? What keeps you from stepping out of anonymity? |
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Yodelking
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189 |
Quote: Downvoting is ok, as far as wdr is concerned. And as long as you have the guts to stand up for your votes by making them public.
Groepaz, why don't you make your votes public? What keeps you from stepping out of anonymity?
Maybe a new cathegory "Behavior" should be added? ;)
Then you can downvote those you don't like, instead of downvoting people as musicians, coders or whatever, just because you don't like them.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:Downvoting is ok, as far as wdr is concerned. And as long as you have the guts to stand up for your votes by making them public.
Groepaz, why don't you make your votes public? What keeps you from stepping out of anonymity?
and what would that change? except i would need to defend myself all the time i "downvote" someone? (i already had ppl argueing with me about my votes ALTHOUGH they are anonymous, go figure)
why dont people tell everyone in public what they voted in an election?
oh well. i'm rarely voting anyway, who gives a damn. as graham pointed out, the whole voting thing is pointless as it is. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
That's a duck and cover attitude, but you're free to have that.
I have no problem telling people what I voted in the last election, by the way. I'm just as straight in real life as I am here. People should always stand up for what they think is right and not hide their opinions because that might cause effort or trouble in some way, even if it's just the inconvenience of having to explain things. But we're drifting into philosophical grounds now... |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: The following threads already contain hundreds of posts considering the same topic, basically we're just repeating the same old here.
Up/downvoting solution
Up/downvoting solution
STOP DOWNVOTING,LAMERS!!!!!
STOP DOWNVOTING,LAMERS!!!!!
Voting
Voting
Misuse of voting
Misuse of voting
Transparent votes?
Transparent votes?
Downvoting
Downvoting
will some 1 please tell me why
will some 1 please tell me why
IMHO, the best idea comes from TDJ:
Transparant voting & editing
Transparant voting & editing
+ Weighted-average topics
weighted average?
weighted average?
Weighted average, again.
Weighted average, again.
Oi, I voted a 9 for your Yolk piece, your score went from 8.8 to 8.7 <o/ |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:That's a duck and cover attitude, but you're free to have that.
I have no problem telling people what I voted in the last election, by the way. I'm just as straight in real life as I am here. People should always stand up for what they think is right and not hide their opinions because that might cause effort or trouble in some way, even if it's just the inconvenience of having to explain things. But we're drifting into philosophical grounds now...
i have zero problem with standing up for what i think, just do some research. i have more than once stated a certain not so popular opinion loudly and discussed it in public. i can take that, really.
the whole point is that everyone should be free to choose whom to tell what. i just choosed to defend exactly that - it doesnt mean that i wouldnt tell someone what or for whom i voted at all.
and as for "stand up for what they think"; csdb is full of strange hypocrite "rules" in that regard. (i'm still waiting for a list of the so called "trusted" users - i wonder how i can trust them when i dont even know who they are) |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
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Allright Groepaz, I didn't want to play Spanish Inquisition on you. I was just interested what keeps you from making your votes public. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
we just need to wait. Downvoters will be treated as potential terrorists and thus all be collected in the anti-terror-files. So we just cross-reference with that one then. The remaing votes yield more than just top10. Those who downvote are suspects and those who are downvoted by genuine (just had to use that word) respected voters more so.
I can totally see groepaz point as one of principle. The only way that would work (and still suck) might be to have an undisclosed voting-period for each release for a certain time. So noone sees the results. Even after his/her own vote. And after that time (maybe 30 days?) the vote is public and no further votes are accepted. Hail democracy. |
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T.M.R
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i hate that T.M.R bloke, i gave him a 1 for everything!!!1one |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
agreed :o) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Allright Groepaz, I didn't want to play Spanish Inquisition on you. I was just interested what keeps you from making your votes public.
Fuck that, burn him! BURN BURN BURN! ;-) |
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TWR
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Posts: 187 |
Burn democracy! BURN!BURN!BURN! ;-D |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
I just farted.... |
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T.M.R
Account closed
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Quote: I just farted....
Ooh, a new release - i'll give it a 6 out of 10...? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: I just farted....
nice filters ! |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
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Quote: Seems I got two inverse mega fans. They gave me a set of 1 point votes.
I was a bit interested in finding out who that was, since I've never heard of them or seen any posts from either of them on CSDb.
The votes in question are registered to Auslaender and abracadabra, which is perfectly ok, if they think I suck...
At first I just clicked the abracadabra link and some pretty empty profile with a picture of a magician showed (refered to a guy call Mira, too!). I thought, hmm, strange.. Maybe someone who'd like to conceal himself or something... Didn't think much of it to be honest.
I wasn't untill another one showed. Auslaender!. Strange handle, but then again, we're strange people most of us.. I wonder who that is!.. No profile, when doing a profile search.. Though I'd search the forum for posts, and .. bang... All my indifferent discussions with Nata showed, only Nata showing as Auslaender!.. Sigh!.. Why?.. For what use?.. I don't get it.. He can vote me all the way to the bottom of the list for all I care, but I'm really disappointed.. I hope someone else hacked his profile or something, because that would mean that I didn't misjudge Nata in the past.
@laxity
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/votestatistics.php?type=scener&id=67..
now, the (maybe) unfair votes frome me & abracadabra are removed. Hope you are happy again. :) |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
What a noble deed. Nata for president |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Wanderer for president, the rest of the downvoters for staff. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
excellent ideas! keep it coming! =D |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
another thing is that we should just disable anonymous voting altogether maybe? |
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T.M.R
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Quote: another thing is that we should just disable anonymous voting altogether maybe?
That sound was a can of worms being opened and reheated, by the way... =-) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:another thing is that we should just disable anonymous voting altogether maybe?
and maybe disable anonymous godmode too? |
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T.M.R
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Quote: Quote:another thing is that we should just disable anonymous voting altogether maybe?
and maybe disable anonymous godmode too?
Aww, i've always wanted to be an anonymous god... actually, i'd tell every fucker who'd listen so i wouldn't be anonymous anyway. =-) Problem is, i know i'm the wrong person to ask because i'd abuse the powers and add "because i'm a cock" to loads of posts by people i disliked! |
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Wile Coyote
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Quote: another thing is that we should just disable anonymous voting altogether maybe?
I would with go with that. CSDb reveal the high voters, and hide the low voters. If i were to vote on a release weather it be high or low, i wouldn't have a problem with others seeing the vote that i had cast. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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if votes vould be visible, then you could make fake accounts to downvote |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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...which brings us to the point that every (login) account should be linked to a scener profile. |
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The Overkiller
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Quote: ...which brings us to the point that every (login) account should be linked to a scener profile.
Yep! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
and besides every scener we must have an SS fuhrer to watch him, and shot him in the head if he does downvoting |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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now we are talking! |
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Wile Coyote
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Quote: if votes vould be visible, then you could make fake accounts to downvote
In that case the mods should remove votes made by individuals that have nothing to do with the c64 community. In order to cast a vote on CSDb it should be required that the individual should have a handle and have had some involvement in a c64 production. I think that should cover it. |
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Ed
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173 |
What is really the difference between voting low and a downvote, if we are disregarding intentionality. It would mean nothing more than a bad point recieved...
No doubt anonymous votes seem to be interpreted as a "downvote" if they are low. But equally high votes could be considered "upvoting" or "cheating" even, if the vote is "hidden". However this is often not discussed, at least to my knowledge. Although it has proven that alot of the times an up-vote needs at least a ten to really get something good out of it ;D
So really the problem seem to be that the votes are hidden?
As Oswald points at, there is always the possibility of arrangeing for a new account to get some more points (or less, as in the case of the thread...)
But seriously guys, are you all living on the statistics in here?
Could not a bad vote be considered a sign that a majority among the voters considered the release crap? Hence: reading a low grade as a sign of someone's discontempt no matter the intention was to make the release fall in a hierachy of top points or whether or not the person simply disliked the product?
Never thrust the numbers, as they are easily manipulated. Judge your own work in an honest way and dont let yourself be blinded either by yourself, the friendly words you hear or in the environment you live. Take a good look at yourself and do what you feel like, no matter what. This also goes for crap comments, of course... :D
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T.M.R
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It's a question of what you call a "good" or "bad" vote too, but the anonymity plays an important part i think. i've given products a 1 vote before now but that was purely because i felt they deserved that vote and there's no point in having a range of 1 to 10 if we can't use the entire range is there? Granted, that opinion is mine, subjective and so on blah blah, but i also stand by whatever i vote by making it public. It's not exactly cowardice if someone doesn't stand by their opinion (and some people have reasons, i know) but it does call into question that opinion or indeed the motivation behind it when the vote is at the extreme ends of the scale.
And Ed, of course nobody complains about upvoting; we all like high scores on our hard work! =-) |
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Tao
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 115 |
Ed: I'd consider anonymously voting a 1 for any non-buggy demo without explaining the vote in a comment as down-voting. Similarly I'd consider an anonymous 10 without comment as up-voting.
That said, I'm not that fond of anonymous voting at all. |
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
Obviously, there is no big point in this ranting since the will to change this retarded anonymous system is lacking. This database would seriously benefit from having a system where a user would have to be verified by 2 to 5 users to be able to change, delete and vote. |
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Tim
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Quote: Obviously, there is no big point in this ranting since the will to change this retarded anonymous system is lacking. This database would seriously benefit from having a system where a user would have to be verified by 2 to 5 users to be able to change, delete and vote.
i'll second that for sure!
now only a few more people need to know you 2flow..
quick.. grab some addies from zzap64 and start swapping :)
hehe |
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T.M.R
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i like the idea but can we have it set to verified by two people 'cos i might struggle a bit after that...? =-) |
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Tch
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Quote: Obviously, there is no big point in this ranting since the will to change this retarded anonymous system is lacking. This database would seriously benefit from having a system where a user would have to be verified by 2 to 5 users to be able to change, delete and vote.
Going a little OT:
Wouldn´t it be a bit hard to implement such restrictions concerning change/delete?
Someone new comes here,uploads something but needs verification to change (=complete) it? |
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Tim
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tch.. hmm, I could be wrong, but it should not be that hard not to have restrictions on your own up/downloads, since it's logged which users ups something.. or am i wrong here? |
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Tch
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I don´t know,I am just a simple C64-user.. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
this can go on forever if you dont see clearly that:
cheating (down/upvoting) will be possible in any system.
even if we have a policeman beside every scener, then the scener can pay some money to him, to let him do nasty stuff :)
IMHO the best would be a system where every vote is transparent. then the only option left is fake handles, which can be noticed easily.
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Tch
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I am only here for 2+ years but one thing is clear,transparancy is not near.. |
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T.M.R
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Quote: I am only here for 2+ years but one thing is clear,transparancy is not near..
No, i can't see it myself... geddit? Transparent... can't see it? Never mind... [sighs =-] |
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Tch
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Quote: No, i can't see it myself... geddit? Transparent... can't see it? Never mind... [sighs =-]
Duh,well...excuise me.. ;P
(Transparant in Dutch...Lekker belangrijk) |
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T.M.R
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Quote: Duh,well...excuise me.. ;P
(Transparant in Dutch...Lekker belangrijk)
Sorry, was only making a piss poor joke... |
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Tim
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Quote: Sorry, was only making a piss poor joke...
Yeah.. you were playing with no sprite collision.. thatÂ’s cheating :)
..now that one was bad.. yours was funny ;) |
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Tch
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Point made.. (sigh) |
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T.M.R
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i wasn't actually making a point, just a poor joke... personally, i'm pro transparent voting but i doubt it's going to happen. |
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Bizzmo
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With regard to transparent voting, perhaps we should ask the CSDb community to vote on it. Of course, we'll have to work out if the voting on that would need to be transparent.. oh bugger.. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Bizzmo: There was a poll a few years ago, not sure what happened with that. |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
I usually believe in privacy, but for CSDB, transparent voting system makes sense in a way. |
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Tim
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Well.. the main problem with public voting is the fluffy cuddly nature of our little scene these days.. there is no real competition anymore, no need to boast and, lets face it, weÂ’ve all become grownups. Most sceners would give each other non-stop 8, 9 or 10 (ehm.. come to think of it.. that actually is the current status for many releases).
I seriously doubt a lot of people would have the balls to openly give a release that they think is crap a 3 or 4.
Think about it for a second.. I’ll not name any specific releases but take a look at graphics. High marks for many pieces of work.. and yet only in the comments field do you find remarks such as “hey that face looks weird” to be quickly followed by “but I still think it is cool”. What the f#?
The scene is mostly just a flock of sheep, a nice portrait of the real world, most of you never badmouth others.. heaven forbid if someone would call a release by a known and longtime scener pure crap.. and only unless some poor bloke offends a few respected sceners.. then you all jump on the bandwagon and are ‘brave’ enough to call someone a lamer or downvote regardless of the production.. sigh..
Having said all of that.. I would support an open votes structure even though it probably means groaning a lot when I see the vote results.
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
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I will openly and publicly state that I think Joe's recent stuff is shit, and Ive been downvoting it like a mofo.
Happy? :)
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Tim
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Quote: I will openly and publicly state that I think Joe's recent stuff is shit, and Ive been downvoting it like a mofo.
Happy? :)
;) that one was too easy |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Just got my first! \o/
:D
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cavey
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 68 |
shrug, i vote what I think a release is worth.
if it's crap, it's crap, if it's good, it's good. I have no concept of the meaning "old time scener" and fluffy clouds. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
I agree with bordeaux. a few days ago style told me "Im liking you less and less these days." in a response for my comment on hcl's x06 pic: "good idea - bad execution"
Mosaique |
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cavey
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 68 |
Quote: I agree with bordeaux. a few days ago style told me "Im liking you less and less these days." in a response for my comment on hcl's x06 pic: "good idea - bad execution"
Mosaique
It might help a bit if you wouldn't bitch and moan about virtually everything (it's almost like, everybody is bashing Nata, and Oswald is bashing everybody)
Come on, grow up (but keep playing ;) )
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:Just got my first! \o/
pubic hair? |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
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Groepaz: yeah! :D Cool huh? |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
I greatly respect Anonym/Padua for publicly giving Timewaster a low vote, esp. given the fact that we've always been friendly.
Also, I received a few anonymous low votes as a coder myself, but I'm not really sure if that's because people don't like me, or because they actually feel I just suck at coding. Maybe both ;) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote:Also, I received a few anonymous low votes as a coder myself, but I'm not really sure if that's because people don't like me, or because they actually feel I just suck at coding. Maybe both ;)
Same here.
It's an act of REVENGE!
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cavey
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 68 |
maybe i should just downvote scout, so he'll shut his trap once and for all.
@tdj: you just suck at coding, then again, I suck at coding as well ^_^ |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: maybe i should just downvote scout, so he'll shut his trap once and for all.
@tdj: you just suck at coding, then again, I suck at coding as well ^_^
Quote:maybe i should just downvote scout, so he'll shut his trap once and for all.
*?*
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Tim
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@Oswald
Grin.. that actually was one (of many) of the current reviews and responses that I was thinking of but if I remember correctly I restrained myself on commenting on that one ;).
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TDJ
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Quote: maybe i should just downvote scout, so he'll shut his trap once and for all.
@tdj: you just suck at coding, then again, I suck at coding as well ^_^
Then again I also received 2 very low votes as a webzine editor, and I rock at that. |
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Oswald
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I dont remember ever checking who voted what on me as coder... |
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Bamu®
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imho csdb votings are overrated. :)
The best thing is to completely ignore them. They really have no expressiveness.
Btw. It would be interesting to know who dowvoted Randall
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/votestatistics.php?type=scener&id=85..
PS: It wasn't me!
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j0x
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Nobody downvoted Randall. They just vote (modulo 10) + 1.
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Bamu®
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Quote: Nobody downvoted Randall. They just vote (modulo 10) + 1.
Hmm? Should I understand that? |
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j0x
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It was a poor joke, I admit it... And not aimed at you, Nata. Ask a coder :) |
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Bamu®
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Quote: It was a poor joke, I admit it... And not aimed at you, Nata. Ask a coder :)
:) |
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Skate
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You don't need to be a coder to know/understand what modulo is. It's one of the simplest subjects of math :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic
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tomz
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C'mon Perff and CBA why can't we see each others votes? I can't see it as being a mammoth job to implement this into the forum,and I for one don't care if others see how I voted.:)
CBA,Yeah mate I haven't forgotten in fact I have been going thru my disks for the last 2 months,I promise you and JAZZCAT will get a send from me before X-Mas for your respective archieves. Just be patient,Im doing my best.But as for the transperant voting,please please please |
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Bizzmo
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I remember back in the 80's we used to have the same problem with "1 voters" on Compunet. Nice to know things don't change! - Just noticed that I've been 1 voted so I guess that makes me a real scener again! ;-) |
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Zyron
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The only way to get rid of the downvoting would be to make all votes public. Since that obviously & unfortunately won't happen there's no use to discuss this any further or start any new threads about it. |
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Oswald
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zyron, why would that solve the problem, you can register countless fakenicks to help downvoting anonymously :) |
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enthusi
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what about:
you can only vote if you got votes :)
And god herself should give the first vote....
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T.M.R
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Quote: what about:
you can only vote if you got votes :)
And god herself should give the first vote....
That's me buggered then, i'm an atheist! =-) |
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TDJ
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Quote: C'mon Perff and CBA why can't we see each others votes? I can't see it as being a mammoth job to implement this into the forum,and I for one don't care if others see how I voted.:)
CBA,Yeah mate I haven't forgotten in fact I have been going thru my disks for the last 2 months,I promise you and JAZZCAT will get a send from me before X-Mas for your respective archieves. Just be patient,Im doing my best.But as for the transperant voting,please please please
You know what? I might have been the biggest advocate of transparent voting on this forum, but lately I've come to the conclusion that those who prefer anonymous voting may have a point.
After all, every time somebody even votes a 6 for something that other people deem a classic, you get something like "how can anybody vote this a 6? It's a classic!" ;)
Tastes differ. Even if somebody votes low it doesn't mean that he's down-voting, maybe he just doesn't like it.
Ofcourse, if it's a really low vote (1-3) chances are something else is going on. So that's why I, once again, come with my plan to give anonymous voters the chance to vote 4-7 only. And on top of that I have an alternative: let them vote 1-3 or 8-10 as well, BUT!!! make those votes transparent.
God I'm so clever. Too bad nobody ever listens to me. |
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Zyron
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I have to agree with you on this one TDJ, sounds like a fair compromise. |
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Steppe
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TDJ, you should go into politics and solve bigger problems than these here. You got it in you, I feel it! ;-)
Honestly, that's a very good proposal. |
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jailbird
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Cool, TDJ is bringing up his idea at least twice a year, and I couldn't agree more. But what makes you think anything will change, at all? This is the 34th topic about downvoting/transparent votes for God's sake.
And btw. voting a 4, 5 or 6 often makes more negative impact on a high rating than a 1 or 3. Anonmymous downvoters would just set their rate a bit higher and remain nameless... |
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TDJ
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Quote: Cool, TDJ is bringing up his idea at least twice a year, and I couldn't agree more. But what makes you think anything will change, at all? This is the 34th topic about downvoting/transparent votes for God's sake.
And btw. voting a 4, 5 or 6 often makes more negative impact on a high rating than a 1 or 3. Anonmymous downvoters would just set their rate a bit higher and remain nameless...
You don't get it do you? By constantly bringing this up I slowly influence Perff to do the right thing. Just wait, in 2018 he will follow my advice! |
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Burglar
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Quote: You don't get it do you? By constantly bringing this up I slowly influence Perff to do the right thing. Just wait, in 2018 he will follow my advice!
all votes should be public and there should be a "Vote Bitching" subforum, so the inevitable discussions can take place there instead of clogging up comments and the other forums. |
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Bizzmo
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Another way of doing the whole voting thing is to do away with the rating of 1-10 and just have a vote button... you either choose to vote or not to vote... if a release is good... it should get more votes... does that make sense? Or is this just the beer talking! |
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null
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Quote: Another way of doing the whole voting thing is to do away with the rating of 1-10 and just have a vote button... you either choose to vote or not to vote... if a release is good... it should get more votes... does that make sense? Or is this just the beer talking!
hey, good idea Bizzmo! was thinking of this aswell... =)
/knoeki |
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Jammer
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gosh, i've just had a look at randall's vote chart - i remember him having score above 9 barely two or three weeks ago. and now, you see yourself. i'm in favour of 'vote for plus one point' option, definitely :)
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jailbird
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Wait! Stop what you're doing, I have an amazing idea!!! Listen carefully guys and gals, as your life on CSDb will change from now on!
Dudes, I know it may sound horrible, radical, horroristic, monstrous, outrageous, disgraceful, and perhaps some of your lifes' will become totally useless if Perff implements this, but...
How about dropping this whole state-of-the-fart chart-system out from this database?!?
Yeah I hear some of you crying, "heeey I still wanna share my opinion about how a certain release rules/suck but I can't vote up or down, left or right!!"
Yo look, here's the deal: comment the release, we'll know what you're thinking! So easy, Jesus happy. |
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Jammer
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radical, drastical, still also reasonable. now, all eyes stares at webmastah :D |
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TDJ
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Quote: Another way of doing the whole voting thing is to do away with the rating of 1-10 and just have a vote button... you either choose to vote or not to vote... if a release is good... it should get more votes... does that make sense? Or is this just the beer talking!
I had a similar idea some time ago, to just have people rate something Good, Excellent or Magnificent (which basically means you can only vote 8, 9 or 10). If you don't like something enough to give it one of these scores, you don't vote at all. I even did an article about it, which was discussed here: csdb gem top 40
As for completely dropping the possibility to vote in favor of comments only: nah. There are plenty of other options to try out before doing something so dramatical and drastic. |
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jailbird
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Quoting TdjAs for completely dropping the possibility to vote in favor of comments only: nah. There are plenty of other options to try out before doing something so dramatical and drastic.
Agreed. We're discussing this topic with ourselves anyway. :D |
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Sasq
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There are other formulas you can use besides a simple average - that take into account idiots by filtering etc. I think IMDB use something like that.
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jailbird
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Filtering idiots?! That's no good idea. 50% of the scene, including me, wouldn't able to vote in that case! |
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Radiant
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Quote: There are other formulas you can use besides a simple average - that take into account idiots by filtering etc. I think IMDB use something like that.
CSDb uses such a system right now, and as a result the scores are completely fucked up, since not 50 or more people vote on every single release. Besides, I find it a bit rude to classify people as "idiots" if their only crime is having an honestly different opinion of a release than everybody else. I really think it's unfair to make votes that deviate from the mould not count. |
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Oswald
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the idiotism is to speak endlessly about voting :P |
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jailbird
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So... Let's just post an irrelevant funny picture here!
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Skate
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@Jailbird: Oh no! She is definitely "Skate's Nightmare" :D But unfortunately, I've no sense of humor :( |
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Bastet
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Endless thread is eeeeeeendllleeeeeeees. |
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Bamu®
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Actually, it's always quite funny to see that after some dispute with sceners you will get another nice downvote in the profile. :))))) |
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jailbird
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Vote, vote - a beautiful thing
the more you vote, the less you think. |
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Mace
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Downvoting is a sign of impotence. |
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TWR
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Quote: Downvoting is a sign of impotence.
WORD!!! |
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Rough
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Is that Barbara Streisand? |
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TWR
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Quote: Is that Barbara Streisand?
I can't really tell. A big nose is blocking the face. :-O |
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Scout
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Quote: I can't really tell. A big nose is blocking the face. :-O
That's a microphone, dummy! =P |
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TDJ
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Quote: That's a microphone, dummy! =P
That's not a microphone .. that's PORN! |
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Mace
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Sorry TDJ, can't say I find that funny. |
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TDJ
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Quote: Sorry TDJ, can't say I find that funny.
Sorry Mace, can't say that I care. |
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Zyron
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Sorry guys, I can't say anything. |
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Mace
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People should care a lot more.
Wasn't it Scout who onelinered something to that effect? |
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The Overkiller
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Quote: WORD!!!
hahaha !!! Look who said "Word" to "Downvoting is a sign of impotence". In that case TWR, ya need a tons of viagra pills. |
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jailbird
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Quote: People should care a lot more.
Wasn't it Scout who onelinered something to that effect?
Hey, I _do_ care more!
First of all, it's Barbra, not Barbara!
Secondly: Scout, shame on you for onelinering the Straisand effect! |
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Intensity
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Barbarian2++ Streisand ? :D |
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TWR
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Quote: hahaha !!! Look who said "Word" to "Downvoting is a sign of impotence". In that case TWR, ya need a tons of viagra pills.
I'm sorry, crybaby. I didn't know this meant so much to you but ofcourse I will give you my highest votes. |
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Oswald
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oops |
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The Overkiller
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TWR just explain me for what reason you downvoted:
Kendo Warrior +15D
Asterix and the Magic Cauldron +6PD +BugFix
Asterix and the Magic Cauldron +6PD +BugFix
Just few examples....
These releases are really good, but as I said I'd like to hear a valid motivation. |
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Rough
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What do you expect from a retard who calls himself 'The White (!) Rebel'. |
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TWR
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Quote: What do you expect from a retard who calls himself 'The White (!) Rebel'.
What is wrong with The White (!) Rebel ?
Is Rough more "true"?
Get lost, dicknose. |
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TDJ
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There used to be a guy on the snes called 'The White Knight', a member of Anthrox if I remember correctly. He was one of the best coders, but was also known for his rather 'odd' scrolltexts ("kill a nigger for Hitler's birthday" for example). Based on this I ofcourse couldn't stand the guy, until I met him at either TP3 or TP4. He was black :)
What I mean to say is: nothing wrong with using 'White' in your handle. Or 'Dark' for that matter ;) |
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TWR
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Quote: There used to be a guy on the snes called 'The White Knight', a member of Anthrox if I remember correctly. He was one of the best coders, but was also known for his rather 'odd' scrolltexts ("kill a nigger for Hitler's birthday" for example). Based on this I ofcourse couldn't stand the guy, until I met him at either TP3 or TP4. He was black :)
What I mean to say is: nothing wrong with using 'White' in your handle. Or 'Dark' for that matter ;)
You are once again absolutly right, TDJ.
Not everything that includes white or black is about the color of your skin.
It could be good or evil as well. ;-)
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Mace
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Come on guys... *rolls eyes* |
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TDJ
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Quote: Come on guys... *rolls eyes*
You are very sexy when you roll your eyes, do you know that?
Edit: not that I care, ofcourse .. Scout does though. |
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enthusi
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rolling eyes....
reminds me of two turning spools of a wonderful tape... |
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Scout
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Quote: You are very sexy when you roll your eyes, do you know that?
Edit: not that I care, ofcourse .. Scout does though.
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The Ignorance
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Still the point of TWR´s impotence stands... |
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Mace
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TDJ: you should see my sensual stare... I learnt that from Yoko TV Inc...
*_* |
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Oswald
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remember kids, the more you post, the longer you dick! |
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Scout
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Quote: remember kids, the more you post, the longer you dick!
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Intensity
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Geeeeeeez!!!! Small Dick friendly!!!!! Finally someone likes me!!!!!!!!!1111 :D |
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TWR
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Quote: Still the point of TWR´s impotence stands...
Sorry to downvote you, but I really don't like re-crackers. |
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
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And what is a re-cracker? A person who removes the intros
and claims he had cracked the game...
So you´re friend Wanderer is a re-cracker, not me.
There are enough proofs he did it... And now I did the same?
HAHAHA. Fucking fool.
Could it be you and your retarded friends have NO CLUE at all?
And I hate people freezing games or forgetting levels of the game. Enough proofs were shown to hate YOU.
Go out and play with the other retarded fools...
Still waiting for some of your so brilliant versions.
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
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And what is a re-cracker? A person who removes the intros
and claims he had cracked the game...
So you´re friend Wanderer is a re-cracker, not me.
There are enough proofs he did it... And now I did the same?
HAHAHA. Fucking fool.
Could it be you and your retarded friends have NO CLUE at all?
And I hate people freezing games or forgetting levels of the game. Enough proofs were shown to hate YOU.
Go out and play with the other retarded fools...
Still waiting for some of your so brilliant versions.
Maybe you could re-crack my R-Type,too?
For a little help send me a pm...
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TWR
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Quote: And what is a re-cracker? A person who removes the intros
and claims he had cracked the game...
So you´re friend Wanderer is a re-cracker, not me.
There are enough proofs he did it... And now I did the same?
HAHAHA. Fucking fool.
Could it be you and your retarded friends have NO CLUE at all?
And I hate people freezing games or forgetting levels of the game. Enough proofs were shown to hate YOU.
Go out and play with the other retarded fools...
Still waiting for some of your so brilliant versions.
You hate me? That is really sweet, it proves I have complished something really great.
To be honest, what should I prove?
Let go of this "scene-myth" you're living in, go out'n have a beer or twelve and I'm sure you'll meet some nice people from real life.
My "friend" Wanderer got banned doing exactly what YOU and your friends are doing to me and Troublemaker, to name a few. Everything we do is shit and should be trashed straigh ahead.
Why you hate him, I don't know, and is not my business either but he is a very skilled coder and cracker - are you really the man to judge him?
You can hate me as much as you like, I can't really say I hate you and your friends - you guys are good for a laugh or two.
Stay cool and keep on *burp* cracking.
8-) |
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
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Poor CRYpt sissies...
Back to the re-crack topic, lamer.
Yes, I am able to judge his skills, YOU not.
And I could judge your skills ,too.
They are lower than WDR´s. So they are 1 or less.
Even WDR got a higher vote from me than you.
The only point is release a decent version and all are quiet
or train yourself and come back in 20 years.
And this kiddie racism mask is another proof for your overwhelming brain.
You are even too lame to do a decent "FUCK YOU IGNORANCE"-anti
demo. And next time put a comma there, if you mean me.
In the old style the sentence fits perfectly to you...
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Mace
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Oops... I thought we had moved on from the 1989 "fuckings to" mentality. Guess I was wrong. |
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Rough
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Come on, get serious, what is the white in the nick TWR to indicate...
a) his preference of white yogurt instead of one with fruits?
b) pride of his mum washing his t-shirts that white his Beavis and Butthead friends are envious
c) or... his innocence in a bad and evil world, a world which only misunderstands his good and kind intentions
hahahaha |
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TWR
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The Ignorance: I'll get someone to translate what you just wrote - your english sucks.
You are a poor excuse of a cracker. Just look at your re-cracking group EMULAMERS... Re-cracking lamer!!!
:-D
rough: Who cares what you think, Mr. Blah Blah?
THE WHITE REBEL - ANOTHER FLAWLESS VICTORY !!! |
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
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Wow. TWR could read...
Now you found the totally new thing I re-used some cracks in
Emulators from 1995-1996. I wrote that already on Lemon64 and
still there is a slight difference.
During that time there was no internet to get every original.
I only fixed and repacked some games to work with Jiffy-Dos.
Like the IDE64-people doing all the day.
But still there are some differences.
- I wrote it in the intro and credited the inital crackers.
- These versions are still superior to all what CRYpt released.
- I never froze, so go back and write it in the Hacker- or Gauntlet-version of you and your special lamerfriends.
- I never forgot parts of the game like certain people in
"Thunderblade". Try out my really lame CREST-version and you
will recognize the Levels 2+3...
- You and WDR did that in 2006. WOW...
So go out and tell your NAZI-friends and your mum you kicked
the butt of a famous cracker, sadly I am not black, or? |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
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I still wish to see a randomly picked title beeing "cracked" by the two of you, instead of having you rag eachother here. Really :) |
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ptoing
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Whoa, this is like back in kindergarden. "My father has a faster car!!" "My lunchbox is bigger than yours!!"
Get a life you two. |
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Rough
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You care, The Whining Retard.
Just look at your ugly photo which shows the typical average 21st century media fuck-up who always believes that everyone misunderstands him.
How does it feel to be in a group which members sent e-mails begging me (& surely others) to greet their lousy crew in my releases? Hahaha, how low.
the childishness of down-voting and calling The Ignorance a 'recracker' just adds it up that you are not even a lamer but know jackshit of the 64 scene and even less about what you are talking.
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TDJ
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Quote: Whoa, this is like back in kindergarden. "My father has a faster car!!" "My lunchbox is bigger than yours!!"
Get a life you two.
My father has a bigger lunchbox than yours. |
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ptoing
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Quote: My father has a bigger lunchbox than yours.
My lunchbox has a faster car than yours! |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Closing this thread would save some kitties for sure... |
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jailbird
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Pleez don't close it before I post this:
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Oswald
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tubecat is watching you whining
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TWR
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How does it feel to be in a group which members sent e-mails begging me (& surely others) to greet their lousy crew in my releases?
It feels great. |
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Bamu®
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Actually, it's quite confusing why Laxity makes such a drama about a few downvotes in his profile. (not to forget the last PM's)
I have removed my downvote already a long time ago. So, how can you be sure that I am the malefactor?
Anyway, I wonder why the others downvoted you...
(Why don't you ask them why they have downvoted you?)
PS: WTF you expect? Only 9/10 votings?
For someone with an average 9.3/10 you really should be lucky, man.
You really take it too serious... |
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null
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Quote:PS: WTF you expect? Only 9/10 votings?
For someone with an average 9.3/10 you really should be lucky, man.
You really take it too serious...
for one time, I have to agree with nata....
>_>
<_<
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Oswald
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jailbird
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TDJ
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Quote: Quote:PS: WTF you expect? Only 9/10 votings?
For someone with an average 9.3/10 you really should be lucky, man.
You really take it too serious...
for one time, I have to agree with nata....
>_>
<_<
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Knoeki/DigitalSoundsSystem
That will get you a downvote from me. |
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A3
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Quote: That will get you a downvote from me.
And that will get you an upvote from me. |
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Oswald
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Conrad
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...GOD!!! |
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Oswald
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Scout
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Conrad
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MUUUAHAAHAAAA! :)
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Scout
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fade
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null
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Quote: That will get you a downvote from me.
You know? I don't give a shit about votes =) just like people who hate my BASIC stuff... I don't give a shit...
cheers!
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Good to see all cats - somehow I like them more than the thread itself.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: You know? I don't give a shit about votes =) just like people who hate my BASIC stuff... I don't give a shit...
cheers!
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Knoeki/DigitalSoundsSystem
And that attitude will give you another downvote.
Yes you heard me: DOUBLE DOWNVOTE FOR KNOEKI! |
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null
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
Quote: And that attitude will give you another downvote.
Yes you heard me: DOUBLE DOWNVOTE FOR KNOEKI!
\o/
and this thread needs moar cats and party hard.
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Bamu®
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Bamu®
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As I am a fair man, I will make my votes from now on PUBLIC!!
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
yes, we noticed... and congratulations with voting yourself
10 ... Damn that's just lame. Luckily we know that CSDB votes
can't be taken seriously.
I guess only whiners would vote themselves 10 :-) |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: yes, we noticed... and congratulations with voting yourself
10 ... Damn that's just lame. Luckily we know that CSDB votes
can't be taken seriously.
I guess only whiners would vote themselves 10 :-)
Sure, why not? Somehow unjustified downvotes have to be compensated.
What is about the others that downvote to 1 ? (anonymously)
Isn't this just lame?
It's up to the CSDB Admins to make the voting system more serious. |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Quote: Sure, why not? Somehow unjustified downvotes have to be compensated.
What is about the others that downvote to 1 ? (anonymously)
Isn't this just lame?
It's up to the CSDB Admins to make the voting system more serious.
... and i thought we had hit the bottom already.
you make me wanna cry. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Feh. I didn't even realise Bamu == Nata until now.
Tell me, why did you add a new entry instead of just changing your handle on your old one? Just so you could start with a new 'vote' history?
If I were an admin here I would merge those 2 entries right away, as they are obviously just one person. |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: Sure, why not? Somehow unjustified downvotes have to be compensated.
What is about the others that downvote to 1 ? (anonymously)
Isn't this just lame?
It's up to the CSDB Admins to make the voting system more serious.
Plus, why the most people only downvote (go below 5), if they have their votes hidden?
It's more than a dubious behaviour. |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: Feh. I didn't even realise Bamu == Nata until now.
Tell me, why did you add a new entry instead of just changing your handle on your old one? Just so you could start with a new 'vote' history?
If I were an admin here I would merge those 2 entries right away, as they are obviously just one person.
I already spend too much time to decollate all nata stuff from bamu releases. No merging is required.
Btw. CSDB automatically created two entries.
Anyway, it simply wouldn't be cool to see old releases under the bamu handle. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
well, in my opinion we don't need the votes+ranks here on CSDB. Too many people fucking it up. So I will just continue ignoring the ranks in here. I can only use the personal comments on releases.... Much better to stick to the charts in
discmags :-)
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85 |
TIFKAN FTW! |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: well, in my opinion we don't need the votes+ranks here on CSDB. Too many people fucking it up. So I will just continue ignoring the ranks in here. I can only use the personal comments on releases.... Much better to stick to the charts in
discmags :-)
@jeff
Good argument. Let's kick away the evil votes+ranks.
This is a database. IMHO it should be clean and neutral. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
yes... too much time is wasted on it. To be honest I'd rather do some c64'ing. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: I already spend too much time to decollate all nata stuff from bamu releases. No merging is required.
Btw. CSDB automatically created two entries.
Anyway, it simply wouldn't be cool to see old releases under the bamu handle.
<edit: never mind>
As for the voting system: it isn't perfect but it has it's merits too .. like finding out about that one demo that you missed but everybody else seems to think is the bomb. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: Actually, it's quite confusing why Laxity makes such a drama about a few downvotes in his profile. (not to forget the last PM's)
I have removed my downvote already a long time ago. So, how can you be sure that I am the malefactor?
Anyway, I wonder why the others downvoted you...
(Why don't you ask them why they have downvoted you?)
PS: WTF you expect? Only 9/10 votings?
For someone with an average 9.3/10 you really should be lucky, man.
You really take it too serious...
Hadn't seen this!.. A bit surprised to say the least.
What's wrong with you, Nata, Bambu, what ever the hell your name is today?.. Havn't you had enough of this already or do you have this urge to keep on putting this shit out?.. How many times do I have to tell you that I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT YOUR DOWN VOTE!.. I care about your intensions.. or DID care.. I've learned my lesson! I don't want to engage into any argument with you, because all you do is talking shit about other people that think different than you, and it's really tiresom. You know why? Because when you say it often enough, people won't know the truth from your crap. So from now on, every time you write that I'm being dramatic about your elaborate and ever so fair (and I mean this) downvote, I'll have to reply with the same sentance. I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR DOWNVOTES! I NEVER DID! Read the first god damn post in this thread which states EXCATLY that!.. If that's drama in your book, you sertainly have no future in entertainment buisness unless you wanna bore people to death! |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
It's actually a bit funny that it took you such a long time to find this relatively old post and start to dig up everything again. (the same happened in another thread :) ... and everything because I gave you once a low vote.
-- From Laxity: "I care about your intensions.."
At least I was honest enough to tell you why I gave you a low vote. (Even you won't believe me)
But let me say: Other people don't care a single fuck, don't have to justify (hidden votings) and downvote (YOU) for no reason. That's all about the "intensions".
PS:
Err.. I'm not sure who this fucking 'Bambu' is, but as far I'm concerned: My name is 'bamu'. :P |
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cavey
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 68 |
Laxity: just hit the "ignore all posts from this user" button next to nata/bamu's name.. and you'll be safe forever more on this board :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: It's actually a bit funny that it took you such a long time to find this relatively old post and start to dig up everything again. (the same happened in another thread :) ... and everything because I gave you once a low vote.
-- From Laxity: "I care about your intensions.."
At least I was honest enough to tell you why I gave you a low vote. (Even you won't believe me)
But let me say: Other people don't care a single fuck, don't have to justify (hidden votings) and downvote (YOU) for no reason. That's all about the "intensions".
PS:
Err.. I'm not sure who this fucking 'Bambu' is, but as far I'm concerned: My name is 'bamu'. :P
We'll call you 'Bambi' from now on: BAbbling Musician, Bitching Italian ;) |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: It's actually a bit funny that it took you such a long time to find this relatively old post and start to dig up everything again. (the same happened in another thread :) ... and everything because I gave you once a low vote.
-- From Laxity: "I care about your intensions.."
At least I was honest enough to tell you why I gave you a low vote. (Even you won't believe me)
But let me say: Other people don't care a single fuck, don't have to justify (hidden votings) and downvote (YOU) for no reason. That's all about the "intensions".
PS:
Err.. I'm not sure who this fucking 'Bambu' is, but as far I'm concerned: My name is 'bamu'. :P
Yes, it's really funny, Bambu. I don't care about your down votes. I don't bare about you. |
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DRAX
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225 |
DRAX is reaching for the popcorns... and where the fuck is the beer.... He better shifts to another channel... Maybe he is afraid of becoming a soap-opera addict... |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Nice cats. |
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kurant
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 15 |
Having in mind that nata/bamu keeps voting for his own releases, there's another idea for the charts: owner of the content decides with what votes it can be voted.
Come on, let's support teh creator. |
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Platoon
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 40 |
Buuuuuurp !!!
Drank Drax's Beer And Ate The Popcorn !!!!! |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
DRAX, wanna join in? You can be the doctor. :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
one more post for the masses. |
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Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
Quote: We'll call you 'Bambi' from now on: BAbbling Musician, Bitching Italian ;)
Please, don't be childish. :) |
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DRAX
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225 |
Laxity: I am considering getting a new job ... So... nah, it's hard to keep the distance to such an interesting soap-thingy... ;) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Please, don't be childish. :)
How can I say no to your request, when you use those big eyes of you .. |
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Bamu®
Account closed
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332 |
It would be a good idea to make all votes PUBLIC. (too bad, this will never happen)
So, people would deliberate TWICE before they give an unjustified vote. (especially downvote)
Anyway, just a thought. Maybe it would prevent us from hoaxes. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: Laxity: I am considering getting a new job ... So... nah, it's hard to keep the distance to such an interesting soap-thingy... ;)
I bet. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
bla |
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The Dark Prince
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 10 |
Hi Nata/bamu!
One day I hope to be as just and sensible and clever as you!
I really want to give helpful suggestions to everyone about everything! I know that people will listen to me if I keep saying the same thing long enough too!
One day, one happy day, far into the future, if I keep helping people and changing my name I might even be as much of a cunt as you are!
The End! |
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Intensity
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 337 |
Quote: We'll call you 'Bambi' from now on: BAbbling Musician, Bitching Italian ;)
LOL. ROTFL! Sicken's Clits Remix!!!!!!! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
woohoo. one more post \o/ grow me beautiful. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
I'm growing my beard. Does that counts, Oswaldbogár? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
damn u look scarry :D no more hugs and kisses :P :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
I'm not suppose to be scary, just trying to adapt a "serious Captain Redbeard"-face to my lovely new facial hair. Hugs and kisses will continue in the regular flow only stingier. Please don't downvote me because of that! :'( |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
Quote: I'm not suppose to be scary, just trying to adapt a "serious Captain Redbeard"-face to my lovely new facial hair. Hugs and kisses will continue in the regular flow only stingier. Please don't downvote me because of that! :'(
Hehe I grow something similar for few weeks, but it will go down soon I think ;-) Anyway let's hope you will pass the border without too much hassle ;-)) |
