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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
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Adding A BBS Section...
There have been discussions in the forums, in the past, about adding a BBS section to the CSDb. Perff told me that he would consider adding a BBS section when he finds the time. He does not know much about the great boards that supported the 64. For
such a section to be added, we all must describe more about it.
Detailed information is needed about BBSs, for this to happen. Does anyone have any ideas? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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the most important point would be to define *precisely* what kind of data should be kept in such an entry... |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
A good start is...
BBS name
Group BBS was Headquarter or Tailquarter for
Sysop name
Telephone number
....Much more can be added too. Ideas please...
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
and more precisely please. keep in mind how the info should be presented in the database... for example
sysop: one or more links to scener entries
phone#: one or more text fields
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
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Quote: the most important point would be to define *precisely* what kind of data should be kept in such an entry...
dude, that information is already in one of the other threads from one or two years ago. I remember writing pretty complete specs. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
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Oh my, guess it would be a nice subject to have on the db, but wonder what really matters regardings boards.
Apart from the usual name, sysop, etc, one could come up with:
- Special sections/specialisations
- system (C-Base or other and mod version) and hardware (it WAS somewhat important back then)
- the number could be linked or in plaintext added have the "area" with it - somehow americans were picky from north to south about their location, so ""NYC", "Houston,TX" or "L.A." might be of interest - also and especially on european boards one would pass the country along
- Amount of 1-800 and 0130- numbers people illegally assigned to the BBS line
- Line quality when using AT&T, MCI or Sprint :)
- Probability of calling card death on calling the bbs :)
One always has to remember that it'll be hard to get the full board history, since boards sometimes/often changed groups and the most interesting part would of course be to have these times and groups properly listed - nobody remembers that exactly though I fear.
So, it would be great to have, but I see very few callers from back then around - so might be hard to get more than a dozen or so proper entries (with a little more complete data rather than just name and number :) ).
CALL NOW: Forplay RSI WHQ - 1-314-481-4821 - Sysop: Nightwriter
- much former ATC
- then someday Hysteric before it became RSI -no idea about the rest
- running color64 in the early days - then ucbbs for quite some time - finally ended up with villain modded c-base
- hardware: cmd ramlink, cmd 40GB HDD, us robotix modem (14.4k in the end)
- a commonly used 4mhz turbo card (forgot exact name) was avail as well, but often removed due to unstableness :)))
l8r
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:
dude, that information is already in one of the other threads from one or two years ago. I remember writing pretty complete specs.
then point us to it :) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1071 |
Quote: Quote:
dude, that information is already in one of the other threads from one or two years ago. I remember writing pretty complete specs.
then point us to it :)
doh, lazy bastard
How about having a bbs section here
and
BBS entries
its not like it never came up before ;) would be great if it was finally added. |
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SECRET MAN
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Quote: Oh my, guess it would be a nice subject to have on the db, but wonder what really matters regardings boards.
Apart from the usual name, sysop, etc, one could come up with:
- Special sections/specialisations
- system (C-Base or other and mod version) and hardware (it WAS somewhat important back then)
- the number could be linked or in plaintext added have the "area" with it - somehow americans were picky from north to south about their location, so ""NYC", "Houston,TX" or "L.A." might be of interest - also and especially on european boards one would pass the country along
- Amount of 1-800 and 0130- numbers people illegally assigned to the BBS line
- Line quality when using AT&T, MCI or Sprint :)
- Probability of calling card death on calling the bbs :)
One always has to remember that it'll be hard to get the full board history, since boards sometimes/often changed groups and the most interesting part would of course be to have these times and groups properly listed - nobody remembers that exactly though I fear.
So, it would be great to have, but I see very few callers from back then around - so might be hard to get more than a dozen or so proper entries (with a little more complete data rather than just name and number :) ).
CALL NOW: Forplay RSI WHQ - 1-314-481-4821 - Sysop: Nightwriter
- much former ATC
- then someday Hysteric before it became RSI -no idea about the rest
- running color64 in the early days - then ucbbs for quite some time - finally ended up with villain modded c-base
- hardware: cmd ramlink, cmd 40GB HDD, us robotix modem (14.4k in the end)
- a commonly used 4mhz turbo card (forgot exact name) was avail as well, but often removed due to unstableness :)))
l8r
Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC
Yep,that were the real old times.I connected with 14.400 bauds.That was really fast.Too fast for the c-base graphics.
George was cool
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Conjuror
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168 |
How about it as a front end to the content on this site?
Or (this is a lot of work), recreate famous bbs's. The content could still be CSDB or not.
Allow users to recreate their old bbs. (hmm more work)
Steve
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Yeh I've got loads of old buffers I can add to certain BBS profiles.
Hurry up and add a BBS section.
Can't believe it's _still_ not included here.
Same also for ******FIRST RELEASE****** labels. WTF is up with that? Has admins just got demos in their &&@*? ;)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
Quote:
doh, lazy bastard
you knew me, no? =D
hehe well anyway... since most important database related things have been solved by now, i'll take care of it. (so dont bother perff with it, but me =P) however dont forget, perff knows virtually nothing about the whole bbs thing, and i only bordered it when bbs's were already kindof dead - so we need your input. i will check the info from those older threads in the next week or so, please everyone else who feels like it do the same, and post whatever you think is missing. i'll try to come up with a useful proposal for a database entry then, which is hopefully detailed enough so perff can just implement it without further thinking about it =)
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Conjuror
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168 |
Was wondering, what is the tech behind this site. Java, Php, Asp? Database?
Steve
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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postgresql and php, afaik. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
I'm keen to help for such a section and am in contact with dudes from the very early boards (mid-80s) (Mitch, JJ, By-Tor, Player=1= etc). So we can get some nice info.
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2918 |
I've posted in both previous threads and am still willing to help out where needed.
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1071 |
Quote: I've posted in both previous threads and am still willing to help out where needed.
same here |
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Perff
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Finally stubmled across this thread. :)
Afair I promissed to do this extra section if someone could tell me what fields, and what types of relation to other tables would be needed. I think this is already described on other threads, so I guess I have no excuse left. :)
I guess we all agree that this new section should be on the same leves as the main four (five including SIDS) types already in CSDb - Sceners, Groups, Releases and Events?
It would be great if someone with a little less "real life"-stuff going on than me, would try to sum up what kind of info is relevant for a BBS, and write it here. That would make my work somewhat easier. ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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i will take care of summarizing those 3 threads ... during the next week or so |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Groepaz: go go go!!!!
++ath |
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Stan
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Posts: 187 |
I still would highly appreciate seeing bbs added here. This would probably take some research in magazines to gather all the informations such as group changes and so... |
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DemongerX
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It'd also be cool, if collections of c/g artwork could be hosted in a supporting role to the bbs section. I know several of us on here have extensive c/g art collections, many that were captured while the bbs's were still up and others from collections since.
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OEP
Registered: Jun 2002
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I would love to see some of that c/g artwork, maybe some of it is mine :)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
ok, here is my attempt of writing some specs. comments please :)
BBS Entry (new Main Type)
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Field Type Sub-Field Type
BBS Name Text Short Name Text
Type multi-selection (legal,illegal,hp,wares)
Online Timespan (two Dates) one or more
Sysop Link to Scener type of association selection (Main-,Co-) one of more
Phone# Text one or more
location selection (country) state selection
URL/Telnet Text (Link) one or more
related Groups Link to Group type of associaton selection (HQ,Support) one or more
related Production Link to Release one or more
related Buffer Link to Buffer one or more
related Gfx Link to Gfx one or more
Users Link to Scener one or more
"related Mags" would be nice, but is kinda tricky, since there is no single entry for each mag in the
database. ideas? maybe something that can well be in trivia since it applies to few boards only anyway.
things that should go into trivia (because it would be overkill to have it all in single fields)
- type of board software: (UCBBS, C*Base, Ivory etc)
- whether it was 24 hours (most were)
- board speed: anywhere from 300 to 2400 baud and in some rare cases higher
- Amount of 1-800 and 0130- numbers people illegally assigned to the BBS line
- Line quality when using AT&T, MCI or Sprint :)
- Probability of calling card death on calling the bbs :)
BBS Buffer Entry (new releasetype)
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should be used for actual bbs buffers, and the graphics that belong to the "outfit" of
the specific bbs (like menu gfx, welcome screen, prompts etc)
usual credit stuff etc from release entries can be used, plus:
Field Type Sub-Field Type
buffer from Link to BBS
BBS Graphics Entry (new releasetype)
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should be used for all other c/g artwork, such as independent pictures, c/g animations etc
usual credit stuff etc from release entries can be used, plus:
Field Type Sub-Field Type
used on Link to BBS one or more
released on Link to BBS one or more
- new credit type "bbs graphics"
- Scener entries need new function type "bbs graphician"
some bbs data gathered from the threads:
Wares Galore
Data shack
Data shack II
The Forum,
Prowl's Place
Terminal Obsession
The Fountain of Lamneth
The Home for the Addicted Pirate
Channel Zero
Dream Park
Tunnel of Wares
Backdoor (901)
The Undiscovered Country (201)
The Black Genesis (9147356653)
Holiday Inn Cambodia (HIC) (5106898893)
Virtual Reality (505) (The Ruling Company)
Infectious (4198853857) (Chromance)
Garden of Eden (GoE)
Wild Wares
The Disc Shoppe
orplay
Terminal Obsession
Shaolin Temple
Second to None
CALL NOW: Forplay RSI WHQ - 1-314-481-4821 - Sysop: Nightwriter
- much former ATC
- then someday Hysteric before it became RSI -no idea about the rest
- running color64 in the early days - then ucbbs for quite some time - finally ended up with villain modded c-base
- hardware: cmd ramlink, cmd 40GB HDD, us robotix modem (14.4k in the end)
- a commonly used 4mhz turbo card (forgot exact name) was avail as well, but often removed due to unstableness :)))
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1071 |
Looks good groepie, so my comments so far:
You might want a timespan (one or more) on (co)sysops, they changed over time. Same goes for related groups.
Its also possible to add a datatype bbs-software, but.. might be a bit overkill.
Thats it for now, maybe I'll come up with more later. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
I guess type of BBS software used is somewhat important. We all had our favourites and it would be nice to know if e.g. some BBS we always thought was cool was once running on IvoryBBS ;)
Groepaz: nice work! seems quite good to me! |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Quote: I guess type of BBS software used is somewhat important. We all had our favourites and it would be nice to know if e.g. some BBS we always thought was cool was once running on IvoryBBS ;)
Groepaz: nice work! seems quite good to me!
That would need to be a multi-selection category since plenty of boards changed software over their lifetimes.
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Stan
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I consider associated magazines as quite important, even though I see the problem that there is no single entry for a mag. Yet this might be the solution: Why not link the magazine staffs with the boards? However, not for every magazine there is a mag staff in the database. We might have to fill this up.
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Stan
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I know, double-posts suck, but...
Thanks GROEPAZ for compiling the information. |
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wreg
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NO to multiselection: better have dates when started/stopped using the software, so we can see how it developed |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Quote: NO to multiselection: better have dates when started/stopped using the software, so we can see how it developed
Different words for the same idea.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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mmmh is board software really all that important? if we add that, then we want to add what kind of equipment the board used too - and that will get *really* messy very quickly =D
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wreg
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if you allow that much, it will get stored in a nice way
and if you dont support this or that, it will just end up in the trivia-field or even worse, in the comments :-)) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
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According to my experience BBS people usually pay quite a lot of attention to the software used, so.. I guess it should be included. |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
Indeed BBS software should be listed, aswell as the hardware the BBS ran on!
There is a vast difference between different BBS programs, just take C*Base and UCBBS as examples.
Also, boards have run from everything from a stock c64 with a 1541 to c64 with Super CPU, Swiftlink/T232, HD, RAMLiNK and such, so it would be very interesting to know what a specific BBS ran on (when this is possible). |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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BBS Software - yes.
Hardware - nice to know, maybe not quite as important though.
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DemongerX
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I agree, bbs software should be a must. You could often tell the feel of a bbs just by the software used(ie. ucbbs is very distinctive in how its setup, whereas you can generally tell if a bbs is a ivory or image or cbase, just by how the prompts respond.) |
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Stan
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BBS software would be appreciated.
Groups and magazines hq-ships regarded as most important. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
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also, for presentation, relevant data should also be shown on group/scener/mag/release, so links back to the board pages. but that should be pretty obvious.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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burglar: yes ofcourse. all kinds of related "backlinks" are implicit (and well, they are easy to add once the rest is implemented, so thats nothing to get a headache about =P)
mmmh so, basically 3 things are missing from my proposal so far?
1. the bbs software ... imho the best way to reflect this would be simple links to release entries in the bbs entry
field type subfield
software used link to release timespan (one or more)
this would make it easily possible to not only point out what software was used, but also credit said software correctly, upload it etc. and most importantly, it would be a lot less problematic than using a selection list, which then would need constant maintenance, and would grow ridiculously large too =P
2. used hardware. i am not really sure how to implement this in a useful way. since there are no database entries for hardware items, pretty much the only way would be a selection list - however that could easily grow into a mess due to all the different stuff that should possibly be in such a list, and it would mean constant maintenance too.
3. associated magazines. this is really a tough one. were there really so many mags with official associated boards that some text or even links in the trivia couldnt cover it properly? however, i cant really think of a decent way how to represent this info in the database at this point - unless someone else has a clever idea :)
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
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about mags, quite a lot of mags are tied to a magazine staff group, like The Pulse Magazine Staff. so you could use a group as a sort of replacement mag id. not elegant, but simple and easy. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Groepaz: regarding the magazines and using boards as HQs. AFAIK it was _common_ 'mostly' between 1991-1996. So, not that many... ;)
You can add a website below a group or magazine, why not a BBS? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:
You can add a website below a group or magazine, why not a BBS?
the problem is that there is no single entry for a magazine .... which makes it kinda messy (not impossible, but not quite elagant either).
what burglar said sounds a bit less messy (only one entry linked to the bbs, not every issue of the mag) ... still a bit .. MEEEH =P
*shrug* |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Maybe it should only be included in the trivia section? The only other clean solution I see is adding the 'magazine staff' as the group (which has already been mentioned). That would also mean we would need to add quite a few "staff's" as only a few magazines have added a staff list as a individual entry on this database. |
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Stan
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Quote: about mags, quite a lot of mags are tied to a magazine staff group, like The Pulse Magazine Staff. so you could use a group as a sort of replacement mag id. not elegant, but simple and easy.
Post #28... |
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Stan
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Quote: Maybe it should only be included in the trivia section? The only other clean solution I see is adding the 'magazine staff' as the group (which has already been mentioned). That would also mean we would need to add quite a few "staff's" as only a few magazines have added a staff list as a individual entry on this database.
That would need some effort, but it is worth it. I could add Ingenious Brain, Brainfart and Shout! for instance, the magazines I worked with. |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Just add the BBS section, im eager to add infos. Now! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Add this section please.
Hello Mr.Perff, please wake up and hear the cries of people! |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2918 |
Add add add. ;)
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Freestyle
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 34 |
What a superb idea.
Perff, have mercy with a couple of old (UC)BBS addicts.
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Perff
Administrator
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I hear you.... :) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Perff: so when's it happening? |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1674 |
Well. I just gathered the nice info Groepaz made, and the additional comments.
For now I've created the new release types, credit type and function.
Next step will be to create the needed tables which I think I'll start on shortly. Then I'll make the edit-interface and the "show"-page. To begin with I'll probably start with the basic information, and then expand it slowly.
I can't give any specific dates or anything, but I hope to get the initial stuff up very soon (within a week or so), and then things should roll by itself. :)
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Perff: excellent! When it is ready to go live, can u send me a PM or make some announcement? thanks!
This is what a lot of us old phreakerz have been waiting on! Another thing... Can you add a flag or some additional entry that marks a crack as a "first release". This, together with the boards, is the most neglected aspects of the scene for this database! |
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Perff
Administrator
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Well. As I said I won't give any dates or anything, but as soon as some of it works, I'll put it online right away - even though all isn't complete yet.
That way you guys can follow the work, and come with good ideas while testing it. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Okay cool, sounds good.
Adding a First Release tag just for the "crack" entry, possible? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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one thing at a time please =D
i will gather some stuff on crack entries later too ... "first release" isn't the only missing thing there :) better to do it all at once (and once and for all =)) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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@Groepaz: sure, I know other things are needed (such as a proper NTSC/PAL fixed flag f.e.) but "first release" is the most obvious.
@Perff: go go go!!!
Call now: The LEGEND WHQ "Second to None" +1-412-287-4123 also NEI HQ!
Sysop: The Dominant One!
"Let this be your warning
A sinner's life is gain.
But life is very short.
Eternity's worth refrain"
(an excerpt from TDO's poetic opus magnus) |
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Freestyle
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Hiphip horry, great news.
Gonna start looking out for my old BBS booklet. |
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DemongerX
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I know alot of the HQ bbs's were in the states. Anybody know if anybody is still around that had those bbs's up. I bet there is alot of software just sitting out there to be reclaimed. I know there were several in the midwest, and as I'm in St. Louis, I'd love to get in contact with them. PM me if you all know of any.
Thanx,
DemongerX |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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last time i tried out of curiousity (admitted some years ago) the number of the dungeon was still valid - and kyles wife picked up, and wasnt amused about some nerd calling at night, asking if kyle still has the bbs =) |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Haha
reminds me of Down By Law. I used to call and if it rang out (board was down), I would call Andy's other line, his parents would answer and rather than calling back later, Andy had shown his parents how to reboot the system, which would fix the problem in most cases.
Trained parents! You need them! ;)
DBL - +203/875-5454! |
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OEP
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60 |
I dug out all my old 5.25" disks for The Addiction, but over the years I have forgotten how to operate Ivory BBS :( - I couldn't even log-on to my own BBS
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Jazzcat
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OEP: OMG, Ivory BBS, haven't logged into one of those in years!!!
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DemongerX
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I know Bass Planet was a St. Louis board, so I know there were some around. I bought most of the bbs from Grego a former Ils board some years ago, and got his software(ucbbs), as well as some of the other Houston BBS scene stuff, but mostly local stuff to him. I'll just keep my eyes out and search around locally.
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
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Quote: Haha
reminds me of Down By Law. I used to call and if it rang out (board was down), I would call Andy's other line, his parents would answer and rather than calling back later, Andy had shown his parents how to reboot the system, which would fix the problem in most cases.
Trained parents! You need them! ;)
DBL - +203/875-5454!
heh, down by law was vulnerable to a simple cbase hack, easy to log in as sysop and read all the private subs ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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same for the bass planet =P |
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Perff
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Ok. Here we go!
The new BBS section (in early beta mode) is now in place.
Go to tour userpage to add BBS's to CSDb.
You can only add basic info yet, but stuff like BBS graphics, BBS buffers and BBS software is in the works.
There is so far no way to see newly added BBS's, but it should show up shortly on http://noname.c64.org/csdb/latestadditions.php?type=bbs
BBS's are also missing from the browse feature yet, but you can search for BBS's. :)
Comments are welcome. |
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assiduous
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i have nothing against bbs-es in the database but is there a way to remove this category from the "latest additions" on the main page ? it just takes place and i suspect that in notime the bbs list will be complete and the same 5 bbs-es will shine there all the time :) |
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Perff
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And now I went trough SOO much trouble coding it so that they are displayed on the front page, and then I get this.. ;)
Well, I guess I could remove it again, or somehow make it user definable if it should be shown or not.
Got no ideas how many BBS's was out there. :) |
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assiduous
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user definable would be a good option to please everyone. |
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Moloch
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five BBS?! haha, n00bs are everywhere
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assiduous
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Quote: five BBS?! haha, n00bs are everywhere
people with no ability to comprehend a written text are everywhere. 5 bbs`s on the latest additions list. go back to the primary school or something. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Nice stuff here ... CBA, Jazzcat and myself are all adding the same BBS multiple times now. I guess we'll need to merge data?
Assmaster -> Accept your position
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
Perff nice work on the new BBS section. |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
I'm glad the BBS section is in place. I'd like to request additional feutures though.
Adding a screenshoot from the BBS would be very nice!
Being able to upload a package with petscii screens from the BBS, and/or buffered posts, would be way cool aswell! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
Quote:
Being able to upload a package with petscii screens from the BBS, and/or buffered posts, would be way cool aswell!
guess what release type "BBS Graphic" and "BBS Buffer" is for.... =D
and yeah, some ppl should doublecheck wether what they want already exists =P |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
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Still, that's not the same as being able to add a screenshot to an actual BBS entry, is it...? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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yes....that could be added i guess :) |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Why adding again the same bbs ? Channel Zero, The Forum ... ? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
double entries are NOT CHECKED (yet) so.... please do that manually at the moment. yes it's annoying :) |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Quote: double entries are NOT CHECKED (yet) so.... please do that manually at the moment. yes it's annoying :)
Yeah I'ved add Second To None, The Forum etc. already and now I see they are re-added by Jazzcat, weird, he can just edit them. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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Niels, I added them at the same time as you, after you and in some cases earlier than you. I'm removing duplicates that have the least info. |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: Niels, I added them at the same time as you, after you and in some cases earlier than you. I'm removing duplicates that have the least info.
David, I added them yesterday, please check first before entering something ! |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2918 |
I deleted a few of the duplicate entries, majority were Jazzcat ;)
Adding the code to check should have happened from the start.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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hehe, guys, when deleting entries, make sure they're not decent entries. often my entry was deleted and replaced with something with hardly any info...
yeh, this duplicate-error should be addressed ASAP |
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Perff
Administrator
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The dublicate bug (checking if a BBS with the name already exists) is fixed along with a few other minor bugs. |
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A3
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 362 |
Some nice work beeing done here. Just trying to remember which bbs i used to call :) |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
Perff: Could you please add a screenshot function too? Pretty please with sugar on top? |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1071 |
great it has finally been added!
nice job, perff & groepaz and anyone else adding all the content
btw, not sure if it was in the original design, but how about adding comments to the bbs page? would be nice to some words to a few bbses. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Perff: thanks for fixing the bug!
Needed:
++ath - comments option
++ath - screenshot option
++ath - interconnected entry option (previous BBS name, current BBS name)
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
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I was eager to see all the new bbs entries that people have added recently and currently the only way to do that is to look at the list of newly added boards. It would help greatly if the Browse section had a bbs option.
Looking in the browse section, there was an option for bbs buffers and bbs graphics. The bbs graphics list and buffers are empty. There are people who posted about having a collection of buffers. Please upload them! The bulletin boards were such a huge part of the scene and having old buffers on here would add a rich part of 64 scene history, not to mention bring back alot of memories. Those were the days! |
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Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
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Quote: I was eager to see all the new bbs entries that people have added recently and currently the only way to do that is to look at the list of newly added boards. It would help greatly if the Browse section had a bbs option.
Looking in the browse section, there was an option for bbs buffers and bbs graphics. The bbs graphics list and buffers are empty. There are people who posted about having a collection of buffers. Please upload them! The bulletin boards were such a huge part of the scene and having old buffers on here would add a rich part of 64 scene history, not to mention bring back alot of memories. Those were the days!
I can second that. Some buffers would be fun. I have a couples still on disks as well. |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
(This is the part where I still request a Win-based tool to cut/paste SEQ files with C/G support) :) |
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OEP
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60 |
I need to figure out how to get my 5.25 bbs floppies to my PC. |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Pass the discs over and I transfer them |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
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(This is the part where I still request a Win-based tool to cut/paste SEQ files with C/G support) :)
and i still have no idea how that would work =D
a tool that converts c/g to actual images would be fairly easy to do though... |
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DemongerX
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 137 |
Agreed. We need a editable buffer tool. I've been sreaming about this for years, but have not been able to find one. I used to buffer alot of material, and found a cool tool in an old terminal called Fritzterm. It was only 40 blks, but would support reu's and you could cut and paste via the joystick. The only drawback was it was ascii only. I managed to edit out many c/g graphics, but came into problems when trying to edit out many of the c/g animations, and some other graphics. If anyone has fritzterm, check it out. If something like that could be modified to be editable, that would be great. I also spoke with The Wiz about adding the editing functions to Dirmaster, so maybe that is another option. I'll see about uploading my c/g collection. I've got it .d64'd so I should be able to up it this week.
DemongerX |
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Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
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Quote: Some nice work beeing done here. Just trying to remember which bbs i used to call :)
I wonder what qualify as user. I called some BBS maybe just 4 or 5 times in my life, whereas others quite regularly. |
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Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 187 |
One more suggestion:
For the sake of speed, I would recommend to list the BBS' of a group closer to the top, not at the end after all the releases.... |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
Stan: It's hard to draw a distinction. A minium requirement would probably be that the user posted more than once and/or engaged in some transfers. As you say, some were regular callers, others called a few times every year, and some just a few times alltogether. But as long as they contributed in some way, they still have to be counted as users I guess. |
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Stan
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I know... Was just wondering. Probably we should not make it too complicated after all.
Btw, nice work Perff! |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Hi Perff,
Next thing to do is to add the functionality to add
yourself as bbs user from your own scener profile.
This in case the bbs entry is locked.
Niels |
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Stan
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Yeah, that would be useful.
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Perff
Administrator
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Done. :) |
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Stan
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Posts: 187 |
Thanks, man! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Perff: can you make the BBS listing under the group entry appear at the top above the member list as opposed to below all the releases. For some groups who have a LOT of releases/members, it makes it hard to notice their boards they had unless you scroll down forever.
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Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 187 |
#101 :D |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Oops, reading glasses needed! ;)
Post 101 has my vote. |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
Perff: What about adding the possibility to upload a screenshot to go with a BBS entry? I'm gonna nag about that until it happens... ;)
Trust me, it's needed, and it will enhance a BBS entry immensly if you can show the login screen or similar. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1071 |
and comments! |
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Perff
Administrator
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Ok. Never thought about screen-shots for BBS's. :)
But if everyone (most) think it's a good idea, I'll add it.
But before I do, I want you to come up with some ideas for max-resolution etc.
Is jpg allowed, or is it png/gif only? (as it is with screenshots for releases)
more?
comments added to the todo-list. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1071 |
hmmm, screenshot dimensions are a bit tricky... mostly a regular sized screenshot will be enough, but a lot of boards also used petscii gfx of multiple screens (vertically) |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
Yes, the horizontal width can ofcourse be the same as with other releases screenshots, but as Burglar points out, some screens may be longer vertically. For instance, most of my logoff screens are 2-3 screens long.
As for .jpg or not, I leave that to others to discuss. :)
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Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 187 |
For the login screens, all we can expect are penises. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2918 |
Screenshots height shall be interesting ;)
Agree with Burglar about the comments, it's a needed addition also.
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Maybe show regular screensize (first screen of multiscreen logins) but when you click on the screenshot it shows the full sized, multiscreen version. |
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Freestyle
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 34 |
I full support the idea about adding the log on screen grafix to BBSs. It would bring back a lot of old memories.
Has anyone stroed them?
Thomas |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5078 |
anigifs wont do it? |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
Freestyle: I have some, yes. I know Jucke has a bunch too. I bet Motley, Tranziie, Deekay and so on has logonscreens buffered aswell. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
I'd like the possibility to connect BBS-demos to the BBS in question, just like you can connect party-invitations to parties or demos that contain info about parties.
Here f.ex.: Endless Dream - Endless Dream |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11302 |
zyron: it's on the todo list =D |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Oh, ok. Guess I should look at that more often. ;) |
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OEP
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60 |
I think I have a bunch of logon screens for various BBSes I did, I don't think I can upload them to the BBS entry though, can I?
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