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2006-02-22 18:43
Tch
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Amica Paint crashing

Does anyone have an Amica Paint that won´t crash in Vice?
I am currently using V2.0 but it sometimes freezes on me.
Not a big deal really,nothing is lost. (char=2000-3F40/colors=F800-FFE8)
Still,it is becoming a pain..
2006-02-22 19:42
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
I was using the english edition of Amica Paint v1.8 for many years, and I can't recall a single crash. Perhaps you should give a try and downgrade. I guess you won't miss too many features from v2.0 ...

Or you could also try Project One (Oswald's PC pixel editor). It crashes so many times that you won't even notice the trouble witn AP v2.0 ;D


2006-02-22 20:07
Tch
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Thanx Jailbird!

Will give it a try,it´s probably the one here on CSDb.
Funny thing is,it only crashes when I´m surfing the internet,not when I am painting.
Too bad I always go surfing when I´m stuck at some point. ;)
°Should save before getting my board..°
2006-02-22 22:05
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
Jailbird, I dont think it crashes at all now, those routines were rewritten atleast 2 times since you last used it. Maybe you should give it a go ? :)

fact is ppl are too lazy to give feedback, and users will always do things a coder dont expects.. if noone tells me this or that bugs, how should I fix it ?
2006-02-22 22:10
V-12

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206
Use real C64 :) da best solution.
2006-02-22 23:16
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: Jailbird, I dont think it crashes at all now, those routines were rewritten atleast 2 times since you last used it. Maybe you should give it a go ? :)

fact is ppl are too lazy to give feedback, and users will always do things a coder dont expects.. if noone tells me this or that bugs, how should I fix it ?


It was still quite unstable the last time I used it...
However, as I stressed out many times, even buggy, it was still the most usable PC pixelling editor I've ever used!

And I can't find you on ICQ any more so I can't give you the desired feedback :) [290663627]
2006-02-22 23:24
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: Use real C64 :) da best solution.

Actually Dafunk just surprised me with a new C64, the pixelling-booth is finally fully isolated from the sight of my woman (so I can pixel boobies and curly-wurlies without getting into trouble), the equipment is functioning, I have the booze beside me, the screen seems to flicker as fuck - so prepare yourself for some fresh, poppy, 1997-styled images.
2006-02-23 06:44
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
I have 3-4 versions of Amica Paint. Some are .prg's and I think one is a .d64..

Let me know if you want me to give them to you, and then give me somewhere to give them to you to.

Amica Paint v 1.5
Amica Paint v 1.5e
Amica Paint v 1.8e
Amica Paint.d64

I'm assuming the versions with the E are english?!

Also, why not use Art studio? Bitmap memory at $2000, char memory $3f40 and color memory at $4340.. Whole file resides from $2000-$4740 (i think).
2006-02-23 08:04
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
I think Art Studio isn't really the best solution as it lacks of char-grid and the color-picker is a bit annoying as well. Also there are no handy keyboard shortcuts and stuff that makes a graphician's pointless life much easier (at least according to what I remember from the last time I used it - hm, and that was something like, what, 10 years ago? So I'm not sure if the editor was improved since that).

Another option is to try using Zoomatic, however, it also seems unstable, crashes often.
2006-02-23 08:46
Clarence

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 121
Quote: Jailbird, I dont think it crashes at all now, those routines were rewritten atleast 2 times since you last used it. Maybe you should give it a go ? :)

fact is ppl are too lazy to give feedback, and users will always do things a coder dont expects.. if noone tells me this or that bugs, how should I fix it ?


Hey Tch!

Perhaps it's Vice emu which crashes for you. Are you using the newest version of WinVice? Afair some of the older versions (1.17?) crashed after about 45-60 minutes of idling. It's fixed now in 1.19.

/Clarence
2006-02-23 12:08
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
yeah I've had problems with Vice crashing when running in the background, I don't think it's just an Amica thing.

If anyone is looking for a PC editor, I'd also recommend trying GangEd. There are one or two useful things that are missing (a copy/paste option for instance and it would be nice if you could zoom in the "second view" as 320x200 on a 1600x1200 screen is very small!), but overall it's quite nice!

2006-02-23 12:14
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
WDStudio 1.0 is also a nice alternative.
It's a PC tool tho..

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2006-02-23 15:21
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Timanthes!

Boogie Down Paint!

God, I love being in a group where the members produce their own high quality tools ;)
2006-02-23 15:39
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quote: Timanthes!

Boogie Down Paint!

God, I love being in a group where the members produce their own high quality tools ;)


Parasite!

:P

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2006-02-23 15:49
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Parasite!

:P

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Hey, I don't use their tools, I just love knowing that they exist while the rest of the world is struggling. I'm a sadistic bastard.

Anyway, you're just jealous :)
2006-02-23 16:16
Tch
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Posts: 512
Thank you all for the replies and good links. 8)

Using a real C64 is not an option,my TV is very old and the colours are fucked up. ;)

Phantom: Thanx for the offer but I´ve downloaded a V1.8 from here and the language doesn´t matter much.
It hasn´t crashed yet,so there might be hope..

Clarence: Yoh! I know about Vice 1.17 crashing after an hour or so,found it out myself. :(
Anyway,that picture is finished,see it at Forever 7. ;)
I do think it is AP that hangs,the screen just turns black.
When I Alt-R,everything is still in memory.

As for the other tools..
I like Amica Paint and haven´t used the others before.
Matter of fact,I´ve never even painted with a mouse..
2006-02-23 16:27
Exile

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 58
He johan,

Als je hardware nodig hebt zoals een monitor kan je me altijd vragen. Meestal heb ik wel een paar staan. Ik hoor het wel.
2006-02-24 16:09
Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Yoh Marco!

Now that´s a nice reminder,kinda forgot about your massive collection.
Hmm,maybe I´ll get back to you when I have some more resources. ;)
Thanx!
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