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Vandalism News #74   [2023]

Vandalism News #74 Released by :
Offence [web], Onslaught [web], Vandalism News Staff [web]

Release Date :
15 December 2023

Type :
C64 Diskmag

AKA :
vn74

Released At :
SIGGRAPH Asia 2023

User rating:**********  9.7/10 (31 votes)   See votestatistics
**********  9.8/10 (14 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Perplex of Offence, Vandalism News Staff
  Visage of Lethargy
Music .... 6R6 of Nostalgia, SHAPE
  FΛDE of Exceed, MoonShine, Onslaught
  Flotsam of Phonics, Pretzel Logic, sidDivers, Soundstorm
  Hein of Focus, Vision
  Mutetus of Artline Designs, Onslaught
  psych858o of Censor Design, Elysium, Genesis Project, MultiStyle Labs
  SoNiC of Onslaught, Smash Designs, The Art Project Studios, The Obsessed Maniacs
  T.L.F. of Padua, Sonic Uproar
  Vincenzo of Lethargy, Molecoola, Singular
Graphics .... Ax!s of Onslaught, The New Dimension
  Deev of Onslaught
  Facet of Bonzai, Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Satellite
  Goerp of Fantastic 4 Cracking Group
  Grass of Avatar, Digital Monastery, Hokuto Force, Lethargy, Resistance
  Joe of The Tuneful Eight, Wrath Designs
  Lenyn of Onslaught, Triumwyrat
  Shine of C64GFX Staff, PET SCIIENTISTS, The Solution
  Spiham of Pretzel Logic
  The Sarge of Bonzai, Fairlight
Design .... Jazzcat of Onslaught, Onslaught-Antiques, RGCD, Vandalism News Staff
Disk Cover .... Mikael of Pretzel Logic
Text .... Bitbreaker of Nuance, Performers
  Bob of Censor Design
  CRT
  cTrix of Disaster Area
  Deetsay of Da Jormas, Nah-Kolor, Orange, Panic, Zymosis
  Dr. Science of Atlantis
  dyme of Onslaught
  Facet of Bonzai, Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Satellite
  Hedgehog of Nah-Kolor
  Higgie of Kraze, Onslaught
  Jason Page of MultiStyle Labs
  Jazzcat of Onslaught, Onslaught-Antiques, RGCD, Vandalism News Staff
  KEF
  LDX#40 of Onslaught
  Magic of Nah-Kolor, Vandalism News Staff
  Mahoney of Performers, Visa Röster
  Pal of Fairlight, Finnish Gold, Offence, Vandalism News Staff
  Perplex of Offence, Vandalism News Staff
  Quiss of Reflex, The Art Project Studios
  Swallow of Censor Design
  The Chaos Engineer of Hokuto Force
  The Sarge of Bonzai, Fairlight
  Trap of Bonzai, Performers
  Vincenzo of Lethargy, Molecoola, Singular
  Visage of Lethargy
Charset .... Perplex of Offence, Vandalism News Staff
Linking .... Perplex of Offence, Vandalism News Staff
Loader .... Krill of Plush
Interviewed .... Sulevi of Extend, Phonics, Virtual Dreams
  Talent of Censor Design
  Trident of Fairlight
Test .... Jazzcat of Onslaught, Onslaught-Antiques, RGCD, Vandalism News Staff
  Magic of Nah-Kolor, Vandalism News Staff
Help .... DJ Gruby of Protovision, Triad
  Jazzcat of Onslaught, Onslaught-Antiques, RGCD, Vandalism News Staff
  Magic of Nah-Kolor, Vandalism News Staff
Directory Art .... Logiker of Vintage Computing Carinthia


SIDs used in this release :
2 Floors up(/MUSICIANS/P/Psych858o/2_Floors_up.sid)
Dreams of Yesterday(/MUSICIANS/S/Sonic/Dreams_of_Yesterday.sid)
Hissi Hiphop(/MUSICIANS/M/Mutetus/Hissi_Hiphop.sid)
Instant Coffee(/MUSICIANS/H/Holt_Hein/Instant_Coffee.sid)
Jerk in Tears(/MUSICIANS/F/Flotsam/Jerk_in_Tears.sid)
Me Edging My Excrement (Ouch!)(/MUSICIANS/F/Fade/Me_Edging_My_Excrement_Ouch.sid)
Prehistoric Tale(/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Gallefoss_Glenn/Prehistoric_Tale.sid)
Shine(/MUSICIANS/T/TLF/Shine.sid)
Vandalism News 74 (intro)(/MUSICIANS/V/Vincenzo/Vandalism_News_74_intro.sid)


Contains information on the following event(s) :
Function 2023  
Mysdata 2022  
Mysdata 2023  
Pre-X 2023 Limo Ride to X  
Syntax 2023  
X'2023  
X'2024  Status update and invitation
Zoo 2024  News update, invitation, background information

Download :

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User Comment
Submitted by Bob on 19 February 2024
forgot to comment! I am still reading it ;) hehe, great mag no doubt about that!
User Comment
Submitted by Magic on 5 February 2024
@hedning haha lol.. read faster ;-)
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 4 February 2024
Still think there is too much article content.. When I was done reading all I had heard the sids many times over! ;) Still great issue. Thanx.
User Comment
Submitted by TLF on 6 January 2024
Awesome!
User Comment
Submitted by Magic on 6 January 2024
The 8 sids (original files) featured in Vandalism News #74 are now available for download.. Enjoy folks!
User Comment
Submitted by TLF on 5 January 2024
Are you guys going to release all the tunes from VN 74? I'd love to listen to some of them via deepsid (especially that 6R6 one!
User Comment
Submitted by Yogibear on 24 December 2023
Great release! Nice articles about Archer MacLean and Roger Kean! Also outstanding tune by Glenn!
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 21 December 2023
If someone could make their own diskmag with similar features offering all of these storage options, that would be even better. :)

If some of you wish to discuss this further, please make a forum thread and do it there.
User Comment
Submitted by Jazzcat on 21 December 2023
If someone could write an article about all of this for me for the next edition, would be great. Thanks!
User Comment
Submitted by KAL_123 on 21 December 2023
@SLC, why should U2 and U2+ users, even use a d81-version of a software, when a REU-version exists too, that offers much faster loading times? :-) Of course, when users see a d81-version, the first thing, some of them will think is, that this can, or should, be used on a SD2IEC too. Offering a d81 version, that finally will only be used by maybe three handful of 1581 users, doesn't really make sense and when the used loader even has kernal fallback (which i didn't knew before) it would make even more sense, to make it SD2IEC-compatible. Otherwise, the d81-version can also be removed and a cartridge version can be offered instead, for Easyflash and pi1541 users. I think it would always make the most sense to design software so that as many users as possible can use it. But well, ultimately that's the decision of the programmers. But the fact that people wish that the D81 on offer was compatible with SD2IEC is more than understandable.
User Comment
Submitted by TheRyk on 20 December 2023
Quoting 'SLC'
...
You're forgetting the several thousand U2/U2+ and Pi1541 units out there that now fully emulates 1581, which most likely exceeds 1581 users and SD2IEC users combined... :) The d81 makes pefect sense even without SD2IEC support.

But what about the thousands of TC64 users who don't have real 1581 either... For them an old firmware SD2IEC used to be a nice option.

And yeah, I might invest some bucks in a new SD2IEC, one day or another.

And I didn't say the .D81 made no sense, even on emulator it's nice not having to flip disk/change image.
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 20 December 2023
GPZ: "The loader _does_ have kernal fallback after all - you are just being lazy and mean to not use it :)"

I certainly won't deny being lazy, but kernal fallback and background loading doesn't play very well with all the shit going on with open borders, all of zeropage (and most other memory) being utilized, decrunching while loading and so on.
User Comment
Submitted by SLC on 20 December 2023
"Nevertheless it's a little bit sad too, because there will definitely be significantly more SD2iEC-users, than 1581-users and the d81-version would have made alot more sense then."

KAL_123: You're forgetting the several thousand U2/U2+ and Pi1541 units out there that now fully emulates 1581, which most likely exceeds 1581 users and SD2IEC users combined... :) The d81 makes pefect sense even without SD2IEC support.
User Comment
Submitted by Krill on 20 December 2023
"There's already an unofficial firmare for the SD2IEC around by the way, that has compatibility to more fastloaders included, but it only works on SD2IEC's with 128kb microcontrollers."

KAL_123: Okay, to get this straight... you're aware that SD2IEC firmware support exists, but refuse to accept that people won't cater to devices that are incompatible with the C= drives of old... and keep on using not only SD2IEC, but a low-end version of it that cannot run said compatibility-enabled firmware?
User Comment
Submitted by chatGPZ on 20 December 2023
Quote:
It's tempting to reply with "just ask Krill to add SD2IEC support to his loader", but I'm not *that* cruel.

The loader _does_ have kernal fallback after all - you are just being lazy and mean to not use it :)
User Comment
Submitted by KAL_123 on 20 December 2023
@Perplex, understand, then nothing can be done. Sure, the loader would have had to be exchanged, perhaps with the "GI Joe Loader" or something like that, which of course would have meant a lot of effort. Therefore understandable to a certain extent. Nevertheless it's a little bit sad too, because there will definitely be significantly more SD2iEC-users, than 1581-users and the d81-version would have made alot more sense then.
There's already an unofficial firmare for the SD2IEC around by the way, that has compatibility to more fastloaders included, but it only works on SD2IEC's with 128kb microcontrollers.
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 20 December 2023
It's tempting to reply with "just ask Krill to add SD2IEC support to his loader", but I'm not *that* cruel.

Unfortunately supporting SD2IEC would require massive changes throughout the code, and I simply don't have the time nor the incentive to work on that. If you don't have access to a 1581 drive or any of the products that grant a 2MB+ REU-like feature, you'll have to make do with the 1541 version or use an emulator, sorry.
User Comment
Submitted by KAL_123 on 19 December 2023
Typo and to late to correct it. Of course i meant " If they ask for SD2IEC version ..." in last sentence.

@Magic, sounds good, what you wrote.
User Comment
Submitted by KAL_123 on 19 December 2023
@Hedning, again a comment about SD2IEC, where you should not make one, similar to your comments in the "Night Mission Pinball" entry, to the one in "Spookie Preview" and and and. If some people mention SD2IEC somewhere or not, is their thing and not yours. I like SD2iEC, some other people like it, you apparently not, it seems. That's your problem, not mine. You write what you want, here in the CSDB and other people write what they want. If they answer for SD2IEC version, they have all right to do so.
User Comment
Submitted by Magic on 19 December 2023
Hello, thanks for all feedback.. I will check the possibilities on this subject. Your Vandalism News main editor, Magic
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 19 December 2023
SD2IEC whining is tiresome. Get your gear, and get real. Or complain to the SD2IEC devs, or know what you bought. This release works great on real hw.It's not VN:s fault that people buy inferior hw.
User Comment
Submitted by TheRyk on 19 December 2023
+1 @what KAL sez on .D81 version
would be great to implement "turn off loader" option and thus make it run on SD2IEC (as it used in former issues to be IIRC) as this is a far spread device and makes it quite comfortable to enjoy the mag on (un)real hw

otherwise very good read as usual!
User Comment
Submitted by TLF on 19 December 2023
Cool stuff!
User Comment
Submitted by katon on 18 December 2023
The entire magazine is an amazing read! The disc cover by Mikael is wonderful! The graphics and music simply please my eyes and ears!
User Comment
Submitted by DeMOSic on 17 December 2023
good stuff! fun read
User Comment
Submitted by Magic on 17 December 2023
For those who are interested a live wildcompo recording of VN#74 can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atZPPjLLe6Q
User Comment
Submitted by Flex on 16 December 2023
What a nice read once again. Also super nice musics. Huge thanks to all involved!
User Comment
Submitted by Joe on 16 December 2023
@The Sarge: Lovely indeed: Real work in a world of A.I. generated crap.
Great issue!
User Comment
Submitted by Cobra/Samar on 16 December 2023
Excellent. Thank you.
User Comment
Submitted by KAL_123 on 16 December 2023
Nice release. Interesting content to read, good control-elements and with good music, as always with this series. Wished, the d81 would work on SD2IEC too.
User Comment
Submitted by 饾榿饾棥饾棜 on 16 December 2023
Thanks for a good evenign read here :D Cheers to all involved in this production!
User Comment
Submitted by Quiss on 15 December 2023
Yay! Swallow, you documented your new sample technique! 鉂わ笍鉂わ笍鉂わ笍
User Comment
Submitted by Stinsen on 15 December 2023
Nice edition as always!

@Carrion: It's actually originally by Jochen Hippel, but famously covered by Jogeir. Anyway, a lovely take on it for sure. :)
User Comment
Submitted by Burglar on 15 December 2023
excellent issue once again, it will take me till xmas to read everything :)
what I've read so far is consistently awesome. I really like Trident as top personality, very deserved with the huge amount of quality releases he was a driving force for in 2023 :)
User Comment
Submitted by Digger on 15 December 2023
Neat surprise! That intro is a genius. It took me a while to figure out how it's done. My first guess was ECM but it's even simpler with charset switching. Now beat it and make it x-movable.
User Comment
Submitted by theK on 15 December 2023
Awesome news and spectacular music! Thanks everyone! :-)
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 15 December 2023
Could you add the tunes as a zip please? Would be very nice. Great stuff.
User Comment
Submitted by Jammer on 15 December 2023
I swear, grandma serves fatter and fatter dinner each time <3
User Comment
Submitted by Elder0010 on 15 December 2023
@Bob: No Bounds code team was a trio ;)
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 15 December 2023
Nevermind, seems like providing a service to the community is seen as a bad thing, ask the sids to someone else.
I should have minded my own business, lesson learnt.
User Comment
Submitted by Peacemaker on 15 December 2023
not so bad =)
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 15 December 2023
Too bad for the timing, we already closed HVSC#80 so these tunes will be for #81.
I'll leave a tunes pack here as I've just finished ripping them =)
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 15 December 2023
Regarding Propaganda: "Where is the Propaganda disk magazine?" (VN News chapter). Tip: Reach out to me - and I could have explained it for ya and get quoted. It's on its way, and being the only editor atm made it hard to realize 3 issues a year. :)
User Comment
Submitted by The Sarge on 15 December 2023
Thank you for putting all this work into this. A special thank you to Mikael for making the disk cover. Don't forget to open up the PDF and watch the lovely hand made analogue water color work he has done for this. Truly great work! <3
User Comment
Submitted by Wile Coyote on 15 December 2023
I'm a lazy reader..
I have mostly been into the music :D
User Comment
Submitted by Carrion on 15 December 2023
what a nice tune cover from Jogeir Liljedahl by GRG!
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 15 December 2023
Nice! Some morning newpaper to go with my coffee! 鈽曪笍
User Comment
Submitted by Matt on 15 December 2023
Owwww yes!!!
User Comment
Submitted by Electric on 15 December 2023
Yahoo! 10 points without even reading!
User Comment
Submitted by Fungus on 15 December 2023
Oooh early xmas present.
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