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2021-12-10 21:48
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2064
What's downvoting...

Quoting Shine

"LOVE TO THE NEGATIVE DOWNVOTERS..."

Means what exactly?
Just curious, what is a downvote in your opinion, Knight Rider?

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Feel free to lead (yet another) philosophical debate on the definition of downvoting here, but pretty please not in entry comments ffs

and behave...

*opens his umbrella for weather forecast tells me to expect shitstorm and heavy vote whining tears rains*

An example from some drama last summer: Voting a 2 on something with zero downloads (which means someone votes it lower than 10 without even downloading the file), now THAT's definetely downvoting in my book

PS: @the current release overly hard 5s are outweiged by overenthusiastic 10s pretty well currently imho
 
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2021-12-14 11:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Quote:
That mods know who voted, despite votes being “anonymous”, is another problem on CSDb IMO

But it makes them feel better for knowing something you dont - so that is a plus.
2021-12-14 11:41
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
+1 for lists of personal favourites =)

(Kinda reminds of Pouët's coup de cœur.)
2021-12-14 11:46
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Personal toplists would be way more interesting than "charts" based on the inflated votes, indeed. Of course it wont happen anytime soon :)
2021-12-14 12:26
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
Quote: Oum Le Dauphin [2sid]
Whoever voted 5/10 needs shooting


Drama Dolphin is old. Here we have the Downvote Dolphin! "Sorry to hurt your feelings, but I kinda voted lower than 10."? :D

2021-12-14 12:57
celticdesign

Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 148
Some of my Doh! thoughts:

- In total there are too less votes. With 100+ votes for each release downvoting shouldn't have that massive impact...

- Disabling "anonymous" = more fake accounts. I would even prefer having all votes anonymously (for better entertainment and drama!!!!).

- What about different/changed vote templates/views?
For example: Top 10 (as side note -- I would prefer top 20 lists) by amount of comments, amount of votes (in random views by 10,20,30,50 votes at minimum), Top category by year...

- Or do it in mainstream-style... Only allow likes/thumb up's and count them. :-)
2021-12-14 18:26
Wile Coyote

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 637
Quote: Some of my Doh! thoughts:

- In total there are too less votes. With 100+ votes for each release downvoting shouldn't have that massive impact...

- Disabling "anonymous" = more fake accounts. I would even prefer having all votes anonymously (for better entertainment and drama!!!!).

- What about different/changed vote templates/views?
For example: Top 10 (as side note -- I would prefer top 20 lists) by amount of comments, amount of votes (in random views by 10,20,30,50 votes at minimum), Top category by year...

- Or do it in mainstream-style... Only allow likes/thumb up's and count them. :-)


:)
2021-12-14 18:48
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1821
BTT - all of you!

LOLs back into a corner waiting for the final answer...
2021-12-14 19:03
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
Quote: Personal toplists would be way more interesting than "charts" based on the inflated votes, indeed. Of course it wont happen anytime soon :)

I like the idea very much.
2021-12-15 11:35
Dr. TerrorZ

Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 11
I used to think that removing anonymity would help fix the “problem.” But I now doubt that, and the problem might not be there in the first place.

Often the amount of votes is just as telling as the votes itself. If a work is exceptionally good, it gets a huge amount of votes (50+) in the 9-10 territory and then any “downvoters” become statistically insignificant. So there votes are almost kind of “likes”.

In an ideal world people would vote more. Vote quicker and intuitively, if the number of votes gets high enough then it’s more “accurate” despite some outliers. If anonymity helps do that, then it could be better than a handful of over-rationalized votes by people who feel they are treading on eggshells.

So basically what celticdesign already said.

I’ve felt that if votes start to get personally annoying, it’s perhaps time to go offline for a while. Or make something more substantial next time.

My ten cents to the “ideas which will never be realized” hat:

-If the release has less than X votes, you are not shown ANY vote data, even if you have yourself voted. So your vote is not a reaction to previous votes.
-When the release has X or more votes, the vote data becomes public.

(X is some amount, probably higher than 8)

A hilarious idea:

-All releases have 10.0 weighted average by default and will be listed at the charts as such. Only by having X or more votes, the average will be recalculated.
2021-12-15 20:53
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2064
Thanks for all your postings and the overall civilized debate. Your valuable Input (also the offtopic ideas suggesting reforming the current vote system, some well-known ideas, some new ones)

However, nothing has been posted on the actual topic, anymore, for a while, hence it's *closed*.
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