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2007-03-24 19:01
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031
Release id #47904 : Joe Gunn Preview

Now what was the fucking idea with releasing this? Showing your packer using, cruncher and introlinking skills? Triad was the name for quality for me. Now Triad equals a bunch of fucking lamers not being able to do anything but put intros in front of non protected games, games that are not even finished, games that are made for fun, and for free. You didnt even needed a first supplier, just downloaded it added an intro... for what fucking reason?

Stop being lame and releasing shite under the triad label.
 
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2007-03-28 10:22
The Ignorance

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85
Ok. Next thread should be the dividing of all C-64
gamecoders from 1982-2007 into c-64 enthusiasts and
people who did their work and earned money with it.
As we could judge then which "cracking" was good and
which NOT.
I would have understood more a point in not releasing such new sold games like STRANDED. Who cares about this preview?
And solely the author could maybe care. And I still think it's more than good for him in this case. He got more attention for his game as he would have got with his own homepage.
I think Jazzcat's words are a but harsh, but still Oswald started it and I read nearly everyday and everywhere the great experience and knowledge of OSWALDBOGAR...
All in all I miss the respect for traditions which started the whole scene and especially the demo-scene.
The best people criticizing others are for sure disksleeve-
releasers or mag-editors. They are the wisest men.
But better go on talking about introlinking new unsold previews than fighting against real bullshit.
2007-03-28 12:00
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh but Yago's point comes to mind.

Regarding intro linking demos. That's comparing oranges to apples and has no relevance here.

I've said my piece regarding the intro-linking of a preview (released or not). A real shame that the new generation cannot tolerate certain traditions or just ignore them in peace. Maybe if I go walking through their woods creating some noise I might awaken some sleeping giants also? :)
2007-03-28 13:19
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031
jazzcat, right, lets compare apples and oranges. lets translate our discussion to them. You say stealing apples is right because thats a tradition, and stealing oranges is bad since thats not a tradition.
2007-03-28 13:30
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031
laxity, no problem here? right, from now on please send your tunes before release to me so I can put a nice RSC intro in front of them. thanx in advance.

or maybe it is possible to bring something into someones attention without putting an intro in front of it ?

or is it that if the crackscene could do it they would even introlink the cowshit they find aside the roads?

the crackscene is striving for attention and they're using such ways to propagate their labels that takes laughably little effort and using someone elses prod ? A little sidenote, Triad even failed to put out the latest prv as Endurion stated in the comments. That shows how much time they have invested into it.

2007-03-28 13:31
Trazan

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620
"or is it that if the crackscene could do it they would even introlink the cowshit they find aside the roads?"

Yes. Its called Budgetrelease.
With no qualityreleases nomore, Triad/other groups did right releasing a preview.

"the crackscene is striving for attention"
I guess anyone on the scene is really.
2007-03-28 14:12
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Oswald's last few posts only consolidates my position on him achieving the village idiot status.

Tolerance is a quality he lacks (a topic on which CreamD touched on).

We all know his opinion. Yet he continues... (awaiting his next rant)

2007-03-28 14:31
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036
Jazzcat: don't forget that I never changed (some of) my views on todays cracking scene. I just more-or-less stopped to disperse them publicly ;-) But as you have noticed, this kind of reaction/opinion is quite frequent today. Krill also supported Oswald's opinion. ;-)
2007-03-28 14:45
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1051
NEWSFLASH: The CrackingScene Is Dead!
2007-03-28 14:53
Trazan

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620
Damn..:(
2007-03-28 15:28
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11154
damn crackers :(
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