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2013-07-22 20:47
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
Coding while you're drunk

Hi,

What do you think about coding while being drunk (up to a degree, or down to a degree, matter of view :)

It mostly works with music, but...
I remember coding was flawless and came by 'instinct' while I was moderately drunk sometimes.... how come... I'll never now...

It would be really interesting to see releases from coders breaking down ther brains to bare thoughts then building up intuitive wonderful things...
Kinda paradoxon, but might work. I think there are coders who never drink beer/whine...then what about meditation or coding just after wakin'up?!

Let's imagine: Drunk Demo competition :) LoooLler...
(of course there's no way to check drunkenity, but I don't care :)
now, shame on me for bringing something like this...
but I might code a demo as a result... who knows...
2013-07-22 20:51
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
3-4 beer, tone down the rational mind, and just code like instinct like when composing music from thin air, it works good for me.

maybe not at all for some. :)
2013-07-22 20:53
TWW

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 545
Hehe. I remeber doing exams while (still) drunk from the day before. Usually we brought our books over to the pub and "studied the day before" and surprisingly it went ok. I imagine it has something to do with the brain being less inhibited while under the influence (same goes for you taste in partners etc.).

Personnaly I had the biggest eureka moments while sleeping. Remeber one night I woke up I had figgured out how to code "bobs" after a long time of pondering about it while awake (Yeah I was like 12 or something).

I use the same tactic today, where if I face a seemingly large issue, I just "sleep on it" and after a full night defragmenting or what the heck the brain does, things has fallen into place.

This being said, Yes- I like coding and stuff when I'm drunk 8-D

Gives a whole new meaning to "Happy Coding!"
2013-07-22 21:02
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Quoting Hermit
I think there are coders who never drink beer/whine

I doubt there are coders who never whine. :P
2013-07-22 21:09
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
I guess there are some.
I think Soci is one, but what about HCL.
I'd be interested about a drunk HCL demo while he's drunk, what's more, while his child hits some random keys and after all creates a world record from vein/genes :)
2013-07-22 21:11
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 902
Quote: I guess there are some.
I think Soci is one, but what about HCL.
I'd be interested about a drunk HCL demo while he's drunk, what's more, while his child hits some random keys and after all creates a world record from vein/genes :)


From now on, I'll be having nightmares about being beaten in democompos by HCL's toddler..

/me wakes up screaming!!
2013-07-22 21:19
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
Quote:

I'd be interested about a drunk HCL demo while he's drunk

1 Year Totally Stoned
2013-07-22 21:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
the only way to get code from doc bacardi at all is to make him piss drunk =)
2013-07-22 21:33
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
Night birds, night birds ;)

Doc Bacardi! Be drunk as much as you can and code those wonderful codes...

I got a Hungarian lyrics for Dane's Dazzler while I was asleep (from him I guess ;). I continued the text after wakin'up. Of course it was not as good while awake, but it might come out somewhere soon...
It started as something like "We had aaa hause, but suddenly we looost the keeey of it..."

What about Xbow or Clarence?! No way! I they start to code while drunk I guess they would get 16 sprites per scanline. That would mean the destruction of the time-space continuum and the end of the world, according to Mr Brown...

(Apart from jokes, many inventions have come from the unpredictable results, but it might be the same as subconscious mind, which does not exist without people...)
2013-07-22 22:19
Dane

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 423
Hungarian lyrics to my songs?
2013-07-22 22:40
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
i cant code at all when being drunk for that matter.... hell i hardly manage to do it when not drunk =P
2013-07-22 23:16
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
Quote: i cant code at all when being drunk for that matter.... hell i hardly manage to do it when not drunk =P

That leads us to.... coding stoned. Works just fine for me, being all focused and such, while coding drunk - no work for me, siree :) Makes me all fussy and want to f.. p.. d.. have some other kind of fun than code. Ah well.
2013-07-22 23:21
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
yep =)
2013-07-23 00:18
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255
Creative or just straightforward coding after some beers or drinks can work just fine. Bugfixing, on the other hand...
2013-07-23 06:43
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
nice thread for a laugh, but in reality often one (me) focuses so much that even forgets to take a piss/dump and eat while coding. drinking is a no no in the real world. atleast if you want to have a quality result.

Shite you have already coded hundred times is possible while moderatley drunk, but I think it would still take more time and effort. and coming up with something new I bet is nigh impossible.
2013-07-23 07:20
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
You must be right about that, Oswald. Thinking long term, spirit destroys some neurons after all, as I've heard...fortunately we have so much of'em, but we must be careful... it's really just a fun topic about occasional observations...not trying to mislead/encourage anyone to get stoned and start coding :)
I also forget to eat/drink while I concentrate on problems to solve. Even starved for a whole day, sometimes in a past.
2013-07-23 07:29
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411
Not at all surprised that Doc Bacardi was mentioned here early :D
2013-07-23 07:29
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463
it's a matter of altered state of counsciusness.
Some one can reach an altered state to create artisic works "automagically", some others need a little help (alcol, thc, lsd...).
I never coded stoned, but often, looking at my own code made some times ago, i can't figure WHO did it...
Some times i go to sleep with a buggy code in mind and wake up with a full working code in mind...
Mind power +)
2013-07-23 07:39
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
Solving a coding/structuring problem during sleep can really work. But for me it was really a bad experience dreaming about codes and trying to get them work. That sleep was ruined, especially before waking up. The brain works at 500% while subconscious gets more into the foreground, I guess.
(I've read btw, that our brain's mass is only 2% of our body, but its energy consumption is 20% of it :) Now I'm not surprised by the words 'brain power'. ( Compared to animals, we pay the prize for it. We have nothing that they have - that wonderful hearing,smell,muscles - and we compensate it with brain...a bit too much...)
2013-07-23 07:45
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
Im still waiting for Graham's drunken Clown demo/scroller from one of the earlier MO parties :)
2013-07-23 08:40
Ervin

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 14
Let's recall the Ballmer Peak, just for the sake of historical accuracy :)
http://xkcd.com/323/
2013-07-23 11:54
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
I used to be able to reach the Ballmer Peak. Nowadays it's more crap like Skovpladderballe and 3th Dimention that comes out of drunk coding, so I clearly should stop.
2013-07-23 11:54
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255
Ah yes, the Ballmer Peak. Note that the global maximum is at precisely .1337% BAC. ;-)
2013-07-23 16:17
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
Luckily I cannot code at all - cracking works fine on any condition however. Just make sure the higher the level of blood alcohol the worse should the program be you are trying to "improve" :)

Anything goes being stoned - of course!
2013-07-23 17:51
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
Quote:
spirit destroys some neurons after all, as I've heard.

that is infact not true at all :)
2013-07-23 21:41
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 728
If anyone is interested.. the "Spik i foten" series were typically created during serious drunkness during a weekend at Vodka's place, as he was the first one to get his own flat.. Some parts were of course coded before, but then linking was always done in "disturbed" mode, as well as writing scroll text of course :). In later years, i think "PartyPig" and "PartyDog" are the only demos totally made during some influence of alcohol. "Andropolis" and "Mekanix" both have a scent of beer since we teamed up before the party, and had a BBQ while finishing the demo :).

..but i would not say i become a better coder when drunk.
2013-07-23 22:00
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
that calls for a competition!
2013-07-24 04:19
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463
Quote:

Solving a coding/structuring problem during sleep can really work. But for me it was really a bad experience dreaming about codes and trying to get them work. That sleep was ruined, especially before waking up. The brain works at 500% while subconscious gets more into the foreground, I guess.

Isn't really like "dreaming about code".
Do you know that is impossible to "don't think" about something? (<- read twice..)
Now, you DON'T think to a big yellow elephant with red stripes...
...
I know that you NOW can paint a picture of the elephant to which i asked you NOT TO think about.
If you want to "don't think" you need to think at something else.
So brain "still working" also if you "don't think", but if he is given nothing to do, he thinks about "what he wants" and perhaps that is useless and harmful ...
Then... why don't use this "idle power" to code?
Still active also during sleep and it's free of charge... =P
2013-07-24 18:04
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2246
Quote:
coding drunk - no work for me, siree :) Makes me all fussy and want to f.. p.. d..

fuck piss die?
fight puke dance?

Well whatever. Dreaming about code is sth completely different from drunken coding imho. Dreaming or just reflecting code without coding a single byte for a few days can really help/lead to great ideas and problem solutions imho.

BTT: Especially if sth has to be finished or fixed or just crunched and linked at a certain deadline on a party turned out rather tough for me when being drunk. However, it never really stopped me from getting boozed. A miracle how some things were finished at all (probably with additional bugs unheard of compared to the state of the code before the boozing started).

In everyday life, I think drunken coding is not the only way to code, but sometimes(!) it might help to get the right "I don't care" attitude to try out things I wouldn't even dare trying sobre.
Quote:
that calls for a competition!

Yeah, a live competition at Bunker, from scratch, you on alc vs me on THC (not really my cup of tea at all), bet I'll lose, anyway ;)
2013-07-24 18:06
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
I like to smoke sensi and do reverse engineering :)
2013-07-24 21:15
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 437
I always imagine new effects just before I go to sleep. This works like a lullaby :)
2013-07-24 22:53
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
Quoting TheRyk
Quote:
coding drunk - no work for me, siree :) Makes me all fussy and want to f.. p.. d..

fuck piss die?
fight puke dance?

Close but no cigar :D Ok, let me spell it out for you, literally :)

Fuck, party, dance.
2013-07-25 07:46
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2246
Quote: Quoting TheRyk
Quote:
coding drunk - no work for me, siree :) Makes me all fussy and want to f.. p.. d..

fuck piss die?
fight puke dance?

Close but no cigar :D Ok, let me spell it out for you, literally :)

Fuck, party, dance.


Ah thx you're never too old to learn useful idioms :D
2013-07-25 07:56
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
Oh, if this exists i accidentally re-invented the wheel :) Really, i just named what usually comes to my mind when being too drunk to code. The online order is somewhat different than the offline order i presented here, though, and it may well change with context. :D
2013-07-25 08:44
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
that also calls for a competition !
2013-07-25 09:18
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980
"A strange game. The only way to lose is not to play."
2013-07-26 18:03
McKrackeN

Registered: Feb 2011
Posts: 20
Hahaha I've tried a couple of times and successfully failed like a boss! It was very hard type. It was like if someone was shuffling all the keys of my C64 around every minute! :P
2013-07-28 21:54
Petey21
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I can't even imagine drunk coding, just typing plain text can be hard enough while drunk, let alone getting all commands and stuff right. A typo here, a typo there and a few more typos and the code would render nothing.

So the only thing that actually works better while being drunk is understanding foreign languages. I can even understand Danish while drunk, something I usually find pretty hard. ;)
2013-07-29 17:47
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705
Drinking and coding is a no no. Although perhaps for music it might be different
2013-07-29 19:14
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440
Pretty simple: I wanted the scroll effect in Act Now! (the part with the bouncing ball) look like the the scroll effect in Wet Dreams (yes, the part with the dragon)

Compare for yourself and you will come to the same conclusion: Coding and Booze... Just not friends...
2013-07-29 19:40
celticdesign

Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149
dunkposing doesnt work for me.
indeed 1 or 2 glasses vino can inspire the work,
at least it makes me dizzy and tired...
so please, don't drink and code!
2013-07-29 22:12
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2246
Just experienced again that booze is kinda distracting, that's the main problem. For drunken typo bugs there's compilers ;)
2013-07-29 22:30
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 110
Most of my demos are coded drunk or lack of sleep.. that's in fact no difference. Best ideas came while drunk, finishing the stuff sober, because of the typos and stuff ;)
2013-11-28 09:41
theWizard
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Posts: 109
I used to do it all the time ( still code when im hammerd even now but get a lot of typo's ) , some of my best intro's came out of it , its was even better with no sleep lol.
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