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2020-06-26 15:51
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Ultimate Screenfader thread

Hello, my name is Anonym, and I am addicted to screen faders. You know those (sometimes not so) little effects that get you from the loading screen into the demo. I'm not looking for a self-help group at this point, but rather a collection of the best screen faders. I searched far and near but haven't found one yet?

Which productions have memorable screen faders that you like?
2020-06-26 15:53
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
I'll actually kick this off with one fader where I don't recall the production it was in, it was an early demo... You typed run and a little man (about a cursor high) would come in and push the screen to the side so it was replaced by black characters. Anyone recall the product this one was in? I want to say it actually was a compunet demo, but I cannot recall for sure.
2020-06-26 16:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
Andropolis
2020-06-26 18:03
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 702
Anonym. Probably Terminal City by Ash and Dave Terminal City
2020-06-26 20:51
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Deus Ex Machina
Decade 100%
Artillery 100%
Continuum
The Last Truckstop 3
2020-06-26 22:11
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1990
Shameless self-promo, sorry about that, but I’m really proud of this fader: Amplifire
2020-06-26 22:17
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
Thats actually the one i ment =D That one rules indeed - brilliant kickstart <3
2020-06-26 23:51
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
those mighty guys in Shape make the best fadein fx IMHO. check the doors of perception, the already mentioned artillery, etc.
2020-06-27 06:14
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Anonym. Probably Terminal City by Ash and Dave Terminal City

That's it, thank you sooo much.
2020-06-27 06:24
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Shameless self-promo, sorry about that, but I’m really proud of this fader: Amplifire

That one is really cool, like it. Next step up to maintain the colours of the text on the BASIC screen ;-)
2020-06-27 06:30
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5023
Quote: Shameless self-promo, sorry about that, but I’m really proud of this fader: Amplifire

I saw it on the compo and thought the effect is done in the beamer. There was a lot of pause before the demo started so I thought the beamer guys got bored and playing around :)
2020-06-27 07:02
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Deus Ex Machina
Decade 100%
Artillery 100%
Continuum
The Last Truckstop 3


Thank you for these.

Deus Ex Machina : Great, even in the sideborder and maintaining character colours. Gotta love that. Also like the monitor turning off effect after the intro part.

Decade 100% : Yep the laser burning the logo is great with the sparks. Would have been even better if the depacker would have not had any effects. The transition to the Smash Logo could have been done nicer in my eyes.

Artillery 100% : Tetris style pieces to fall of the screen and reveal a logo. Beautiful.

Continuum : So cool, sideborder too. Bonus points for that as always :) Had to watch it a couple of times, as it's so fast.

The Last Truckstop 3 : Ninja star. Stuff zooming in is great, too. Man and I love this Last Ninja style intro, too.
2020-06-27 07:17
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: those mighty guys in Shape make the best fadein fx IMHO. check the doors of perception, the already mentioned artillery, etc.

Looked at some more Shape demos for this topic specifically and this one really stood out for me:

The Doors of Perception

Converting the BASIC screen into hires, using sprites to set the picture over it and then dropping the remaining characters. Wow.
2020-06-27 16:08
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5023
Quote: Looked at some more Shape demos for this topic specifically and this one really stood out for me:

The Doors of Perception

Converting the BASIC screen into hires, using sprites to set the picture over it and then dropping the remaining characters. Wow.


not only that, it scrolls while keeping 40 char wide screen and hires mode :)
2020-06-27 18:18
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Oswald, that's The Shores of Reflection
2020-06-27 20:02
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Quote: those mighty guys in Shape make the best fadein fx IMHO. check the doors of perception, the already mentioned artillery, etc.

Industrial Revolution
2020-06-27 20:24
DKT

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 96
Rust
2020-06-27 20:48
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Rust

Actually hadn't seen that one yet, all in all a very nice demo. Love the basic screenfader through the sideborder, looks cool. Thank you.
2020-06-27 20:55
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Industrial Revolution

Great animation.
2020-06-28 22:22
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
The one in the latest Atlantis release is cool, too. I like how smooth the screen moves to the back and how it's integrated into the beginning of the demo:

The Residents
2020-06-28 22:59
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 466
Don't know if this counts, but the anim-part of the intro of ES1RA is a really nice one I think.

Ok, if you stick to "what happens to the basic screen", then there's "only" a col-fade out. But the animation kicks in rather close to it;)
2020-06-28 23:30
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Fantasmolytic
2020-07-01 00:30
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 466
Ah, just realized that I did some fade-out from basic screen myself, in The Other Lines (though it's just for a picture display, for sure not on par with the other examples given earlier!).
2022-10-26 22:15
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 717
Self-promo is teh best promo ;) Royal Arte 100%
2022-10-27 01:14
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Self-promo is teh best promo ;) Royal Arte 100%

Nice one, too. Gotta love all border faders.
2022-10-27 01:33
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2852
Quoting anonym
Gotta love all border faders.
On that note... the rules don't seem to say anything about video system.

And... some things are possible in NTSC and PAL-N but not PAL-G, especially in the all-borders department.

So, is the choice of video system arbitrary? Asking for a friend! =)

Edit: Ah, this should have gone directly to some Transmission64-related thread. So sorry. :)
2022-10-27 09:15
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 500
Incoherent Nightmare pacman hunting the ghost and then the viewer :-)
2022-10-27 23:58
El Jefe @ X2024

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 68
DiverSIDty #1 The Screenfader transitions smoothly into the intro!!


Shocker/sidDivers
2022-10-28 07:55
S.E.S.

Registered: Apr 2010
Posts: 19
Also Syntax Party Scroller :-)
2022-10-28 11:39
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4606
Rivalry
2022-10-28 20:37
Wile Coyote

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 645
Two of the best demos on C64 when it comes to screen to screen / part to part transforming are:

Edge of Disgrace
Coma Light 13

I assume that is what you mean by Ultimate Screenfader FX ?
2022-10-28 22:09
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 717
@Wile Coyote: I guess the topic is rather about "basic faders".. what happens when you type "RUN" and lean back to enjoy the demo, and how the "basic" screen turns into a demo :).

Edge of Disgrace is actually worst in class in that genre.. super boring!!

I also just realized that i woke up this thread after two years of sleep, sorry about that.. i really don't know how i ended up here.. but it *is* a great topic :)
2022-10-29 10:53
Wile Coyote

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 645
@HCL ah i see..

Best effect that takes the user from standard C64 boot up screen to the demo.

OP posted:
'effects that get you from the loading screen into the demo.'
- anonym
2022-10-29 14:03
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833
I always likes the fade-technique in this one (scolling graphics):
Schizarrion
2022-10-29 14:07
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2852
Please, stick to the OP topic of fading from BASIC screen to demo proper, not fading within a demo. Thanks. =)
2022-10-29 20:47
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Please, stick to the OP topic of fading from BASIC screen to demo proper, not fading within a demo. Thanks. =)

Yes, what Krill said.
2022-11-04 08:28
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Excuse the self-whatever ;) but I feel I did quite a good job with the one in E2IRA ;)
I know due to it's character it's a "forced" one (not based on "dynamic" starting point) though...
2022-11-04 20:02
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 171
I've always loved the beginning of Smash Designs' Triage 5 . Slowly laser cutting the upcoming logo's shape onto the BASIC screen while the slightly haunting intro of Sonic's Vibralux is playing is just magical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsf1IHSX7-w
2022-11-05 02:37
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: I've always loved the beginning of Smash Designs' Triage 5 . Slowly laser cutting the upcoming logo's shape onto the BASIC screen while the slightly haunting intro of Sonic's Vibralux is playing is just magical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsf1IHSX7-w


Loved that effect, too.
2024-03-17 00:15
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
The Doors of Perception has a great fader too. Thanks to Xiny6581 for reminding me.
2024-03-17 14:39
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 572
Self-promotion, and maybe what we did here was a little too obvious, but we just dropped the screen in 3-char-wide columns one-by-one in No Bounds ..
2024-03-18 22:10
Mr SQL

Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116
great thread! I have been checking out these BASIC faders.

I liked the BASIC screen falling away in slices in no Bounds and the intertwined text scroller.

I liked the checkerboard fader in diversidty #1.

I liked the fader in Andropolis that erased and redrew the BASIC screen horizontally.

I didn't see a BASIC fader in Schizarrion or ES1RA but the rotating face cube is really cool.

I liked the hi-res color graphics taking over BASIC in Doors of Perception and the text melting around it.

And Triage V has an awesome Fx with a blaster drawing shapes on the screen.

Amplifire has a fantastic BASIC screen spinning Fx and I loved the Tetris effect in Artillery!

Here is my BASIC fader demo from FOReVER 8-bit Edition 22 with multiple fader fx and a splash text screen:

https://youtu.be/sNIGrdEQsvc

Space Invaders Soundscape
2024-03-18 22:56
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1825
But you read what Ano sees as a "Screenfader" on post #1 here, did you SQL?

So - there is NO fader on your self promotion thingy at all. And I am sure thats not just an IMHO - more in PM.
2024-03-19 17:53
Mr SQL

Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116
Quote: But you read what Ano sees as a "Screenfader" on post #1 here, did you SQL?

So - there is NO fader on your self promotion thingy at all. And I am sure thats not just an IMHO - more in PM.


Yes Ano describes the BASIC loading screen fading into the demo. My demo does this in three stages:

The loading screen starts to change from the center.
Sections of the loading screen are blown up by lasers.
Sections of the screen are cleared by border Fx.

Some sections of the BASIC loading screen never fade which I agree is different. Are you suggesting a fader has to fade the entire screen?
2024-03-19 20:20
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
I don't even... :D
2024-03-19 20:42
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1990
An updated Andropolis fader was used here: Party Horse

A modified Amplifire fader was used here: Drinking Buddies

Code reuse ftw! \o/
2024-03-19 21:40
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1033
jasserson, your best is still Amplifire :)

and cant believe nobody mentioned Next Level yet
2024-03-19 22:02
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
Amplifire fader was a huge WOW at the compo indeed, very cool still <3
2024-03-19 22:49
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1990
Quote: jasserson, your best is still Amplifire :)

and cant believe nobody mentioned Next Level yet


I have ideas for more WOWsers.
2024-03-20 06:50
Gordian

Registered: May 2022
Posts: 35
I'm impressed by Fracture
And little less impressed by Press any char ;)
2024-03-20 08:52
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1990
Quote: I'm impressed by Fracture
And little less impressed by Press any char ;)


Ahh yes!!! Totally awesome
2024-03-20 20:53
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
So many great ones, amazing. Keep it up folks and don't forget the Transmission64 2024 screen fader competition - deadline Nov 22nd 16:00 CET.

We've had some great entries too, for example:
Fader Mastermind
Press any char
Exploding Screen Fader
2024-03-22 20:20
Mojzesh

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 12
@anonym
Amanita (80%) Screenfader by Slajerek / Samar
Old school: Biba 2 Screenfader by Mojzesh / TGR
2024-03-25 02:54
Brataccas

Registered: Jan 2015
Posts: 15
Quote: I've always loved the beginning of Smash Designs' Triage 5 . Slowly laser cutting the upcoming logo's shape onto the BASIC screen while the slightly haunting intro of Sonic's Vibralux is playing is just magical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsf1IHSX7-w


Just a small point, because I was looking into the SID, and Vibralux.sid didn't quite sound right.. I think it's the other song by Sonic, Starsign.sid that opens up the demo. (which is very haunting)
2024-03-29 20:01
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Quoting Mojzesh
Old school: Biba 2 Screenfader by Mojzesh / TGR

+1 for this one... always loved it :)
2024-03-30 04:55
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 171
Quote: Just a small point, because I was looking into the SID, and Vibralux.sid didn't quite sound right.. I think it's the other song by Sonic, Starsign.sid that opens up the demo. (which is very haunting)

Ah, of course, thanks for the correction! I just remembered that Vibralux was in the demo, but didn't double check if it actually starts it, and indeed it seems to be on the second disk side. :)
2024-03-30 10:15
xIII

Registered: Nov 2008
Posts: 210
Haven't read the complete topic...
I like screenfaders (basic -> demo).
Someone make a compo please :)
2024-03-30 11:06
Gordian

Registered: May 2022
Posts: 35
Quote: Haven't read the complete topic...
I like screenfaders (basic -> demo).
Someone make a compo please :)


See anonym's post above.
2024-03-30 18:08
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Haven't read the complete topic...
I like screenfaders (basic -> demo).
Someone make a compo please :)


That's why we've got one at Transmission64 2024 .
2024-03-30 18:13
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: @anonym
Amanita (80%) Screenfader by Slajerek / Samar
Old school: Biba 2 Screenfader by Mojzesh / TGR


Love the Biba2 one too. The other one is nice, but for me it's missing the transmission to a single colour kinda - or at least the part after the mushroom appears isn't as effectful.
2024-03-30 20:01
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: An updated Andropolis fader was used here: Party Horse

A modified Amplifire fader was used here: Drinking Buddies

Code reuse ftw! \o/


Very nice effects, too :)
2024-03-30 20:02
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: jasserson, your best is still Amplifire :)

and cant believe nobody mentioned Next Level yet


Next Level is definitely next level.
2024-03-31 10:33
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5023
Quote: An updated Andropolis fader was used here: Party Horse

A modified Amplifire fader was used here: Drinking Buddies

Code reuse ftw! \o/


amplifire is so good, I was at the party and I thought its the beamer doing the fx, hell :D
2024-04-01 10:00
Trap

Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
Not sure, but you may be able to spot one or two decent faders in any Bonzai demo from 2018 and up. Bromance and Unboxed spring to mind. Nothing as brilliant as what was already mentioned, but still nice enough for me to want to boast on behalf of the group :)
2024-05-05 16:02
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 223
This one has great fader 64 Seconds
2024-05-10 00:11
itch

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 24
Hello,

Regarding to the Continuum basic fader, i finished the last of the coding in the backseat of the car going to the actual party place :) And then Iopop linked the fader and welcome screen parts at the hotel room. Fun times :)

//iTCH
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